Batman/Superman Anthology Timelines

Timelines are meant to represent compatible stories within a singular narrative.
This thread has become Headcanon City with easter eggs over modern intent in regards to continuity.

My suggestions:
1.) Separate the Schumacher stuff from the Burtonverse.
2.) Push the Lois & Clark show into its own timeline.
3.) Put all Superman Returns content into its own "Earth-96" timeline.

"Earth-789" (Post-Crisis/Flashpoint - Burtonverse & Donnerverse become one Earth that bleeds into the comic multiverse as well)
Batman / Batman: Returns / Burtonverse tie-in material / Superman / Superman II / Superman '78 / Supergirl / Superman III / Superman IV / Catwoman (if only because the LORE is carried over from Burtonverse and not simply based on easter eggs)

"Earth-96"
Superman Returns and all compatible tie-in material

Others
Lois & Clark is its own timeline
Schumacher's Batman is its own timeline.
Steel (1997) is so perfunctory in regards to a pre-existing continuity, like with Jonah Hex (2010) or Justice League of America's TV pilot, you're better off putting that aside until we get a Shaq/Steel reference in a future Superman '78 comic or whatever.
 
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And no, the Burton Batmobile popping up in Lois & Clark is not "lore-based".

You see props from other continuities pop up all the time in unconnected works; like Dark Knight Rises' Bane mask in the Arrowverse in one scene.
 
I'm taking this in good faith, obviously. I respect your perspective but I'm going to explain my reasoning as best I can.

selfishmisery said:
Timelines are meant to represent compatible stories within a singular narrative.
This thread has become Headcanon City with easter eggs over modern intent in regards to continuity.

My suggestions:
1.) Separate the Schumacher stuff from the Burtonverse.
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You mean... the Schumacher films confirmed to be canon to Earth-89 in Crisis Aftermath? I linked the video and used the quotes earlier. The films are intended to be sequels to Batman (1989) regardless of the newer comic book series. The modern intent in 2019 was to have Alexander Knox come from a reality that has had a Batman with nipples, that's just a direct statement. Even the DC YouTube channel acknowledged this in the Catwoman review and left that in there.

selfishmisery said:
2.) Push the Lois & Clark show into it's own timeline.
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Lois & Clark has the Burtonverse Batmobile and uses the same theme music in said scene. There's cross-references between Batman and Superman during this time period too. How is it much different to Catwoman (2004)? Or even Human Target (2010-2011)? That series actively distanced itself from superheroes and suggested they were fiction, and yet the tie-in comic references Donnerverse Superman. That's an easter egg, but it works in-canon.

selfishmisery said:
And no, the Burton Batmobile popping up in Lois & Clark is not "lore-based".

You see props from other continuities pop up all the time in unconnected works; like Dark Knight Rises' Bane mask in the Arrowverse in one scene.
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If the Arrowverse didn't contradict the Nolanverse, had the Tumbler in it, and played a rendition of the Nolan Batman theme, I think more people would be talking about it.

selfishmisery said:
3.) Put all Superman Returns content into it's own "Earth-96" timeline.
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Earth-96 is intended to be the reality of the 1978-1987 films AND Superman Returns according to the literal writer of Crisis on Infinite Earths. The episodes include references to Superman III, Superman IV, and Superman Returns too. Surely the modern intent is that it's one universe, hence why the writer said it was and included references to all the films.

In any case, I think I've followed logic pretty well. Earth-89 is the Burtonverse (Batman 1989-1997), Earth-96 is the Donnerverse (Superman 1978-2006), Batman '89 is non-canon to Earth-89 per Crisis Aftermath, but is set in the same universe as Superman '78, which should be Earth-96. Therefore, the movie sequels to Batman Returns take place in Earth-89 while the comic sequels are set in Earth-96.

selfishmisery said:
"Earth-789" (Post-Crisis/Flashpoint - Burtonverse & Donnerverse become one Earth that bleeds into the comic multiverse as well)
Batman / Batman: Returns / Burtonverse tie-in material / Superman / Superman II / Superman '78 / Supergirl / Superman III / Superman IV / Catwoman (if only because the LORE is carried over from Burtonverse and not simply based on easter eggs)
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Beyond Dark Crisis: Big Bang, all we have are easter eggs really. There's no huge crossover or anything.

selfishmisery said:
"Earth-96"
Superman Returns and all compatible tie-in material

Others
Lois & Clark is its own timeline
Steel (1997) is so perfunctory in regards to a pre-existing continuity, like with Jonah Hex (2010) or Justice League of America's TV pilot, you're better off putting that aside until we get a Shaq/Steel reference in a future Superman '78 comic or whatever.
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Steel isn't included anywhere on this timeline. No specific references or connections can be determined from it.
 
I remember that. Also, Tim, Jason and Dick are all referenced. That's certainly a more advanced DC reality in terms of the general timescale of events.
 
Why not include Goonies and Barney Miller (/Fish) if you Count the 66 connections why not these to?
 
Zeitschiene said:
Why not include Goonies and Barney Miller (/Fish) if you Count the 66 connections why not these to?
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I'm counting the full-on crossover comics, not all the cameos. If I do include the cameos, it would be a case-by-case basis long after I've added The Avengers, The Man from U.N.C.L.E. and James Bond. The Goonies and Barney Miller are small unnamed cameos.
 
Pro Bot said:
From 1995-2019, there was no talk of them even being different timelines for the most part. That was just theorised.


Earth-97 was a joke about release dates coinciding with reality numbers. It wasn't a proper designation to begin with.


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There's a reason why Earth-97 was always noted with "[Unofficial Number]" at the end of it.

So, if Earth-89 is the Schumacher-specific sequels, the new Batman '89 comics and novels are not set in Earth-89. Since Batman '89 is set in the same universe as Superman '78, which is supposed to be Earth-96 based on official word and references made during Crisis on Infinite Earths, logically those sequels would be part of the Donnerverse.
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Page 16, @BB10.
 
This is a bit of a an old conversation but if Birds of Prey got a timeline when would it be set?
 
I'm guessing the 2012-2019 timeframe is assuming the movies don't change their years of setting?
 
Pro Bot said:
2002-2003 or 2012-2019, probably.
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Huntress (Helena Kyle-Wayne) is 23 in the Birds of Prey show. Late in the show they mention her high school graduation being 5 years prior.
There's also flashbacks to 7 years prior.

1993 (assuming the events of Batman Returns happened + 9 months for pregnancy) + 23 = 2016.
Earth-203 is a weird amalgam of the Burton and Schumacher films; while also contradicting both. (It fits more with the Schumacher stuff, but the Barbara Wilson thing creates a discrepancy. Unless Jim adopted her but again, not connected.)
 
selfishmisery said:
Huntress (Helena Kyle-Wayne) is 23 in the Birds of Prey show. Late in the show they mention her high school graduation being 5 years prior.
There's also flashbacks to 7 years prior.

1993 (assuming the events of Batman Returns happened + 9 months for pregnancy) + 23 = 2016.
Earth-203 is a weird amalgam of the Burton and Schumacher films; while also contradicting both. (It fits more with the Schumacher stuff, but the Barbara Wilson thing creates a discrepancy. Unless Jim adopted her but again, not connected.)
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Barbara Wilson doesn't have to be the same character. Regardless, different Earth with possibly a loosely similar history.
 
The show also ends around December of that same year (2016) because it starts snowing in the finale, and they refer to the flashback events, still, as "7 years ago" (2009).

As for how many months pass from beginning to end, I couldn't tell ya...
 
selfishmisery said:
The show also ends around December of that same year (2016) because it starts snowing in the finale, and they refer to the flashback events, still, as "7 years ago" (2009).

As for how many months pass from beginning to end, I couldn't tell ya...
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I would say late spring-early summer
 
selfishmisery said:
Huntress (Helena Kyle-Wayne) is 23 in the Birds of Prey show. Late in the show they mention her high school graduation being 5 years prior.
There's also flashbacks to 7 years prior.

1993 (assuming the events of Batman Returns happened + 9 months for pregnancy) + 23 = 2016.
Earth-203 is a weird amalgam of the Burton and Schumacher films; while also contradicting both. (It fits more with the Schumacher stuff, but the Barbara Wilson thing creates a discrepancy. Unless Jim adopted her but again, not connected.)
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2009 is when Selina dies then. Interestingly when Catwoman (2004) takes place and Patience Phillips takes over.
 
Pro Bot said:
2009 is when Selina dies then. Interestingly when Catwoman (2004) takes place and Patience Phillips takes over.
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The show implies Selina retired as Catwoman after Helena was born and raised her on her own without notifying Batman, I seem to recall.
But yes, she gets killed by Clayface (posing as Joker) in 2009.
 
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