Batman/Superman Anthology Timelines

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So Lois is like 70s and looks like 40 years younger?
idk
that kryptonite thing in returns made me think that the timeline is this one
1975 Krypton explote
1978 Superman and the kryptonite arrives to earth
1996-1997 Superman The Movie (the only official statement about Clark age in Returns and the prequels is "over 21", they never mention that he was 30 when he became superman so that is a change imo)
2001 Superman II & Maybe Supergirl in the post crisis timeline
2006 Superman Returns
2007 Superman III (Fits with the 15 year class reunion of the movie)
2012 Superman IV
2013 The Flash Superman and Supergirl cameo
2018 Joker thing in metropolis
2019 Crisis
2020 End of Crisis

Also, The Flash cameos, if we place them in 2013, cannot precede Crisis on Infinite Earths. This is because it's part of the Post-Crisis timeline, thus this hypothetical Earth-96 would diverge from 2013. I suppose that could be a reason why he's wearing the yellow colours in Crisis Part 5, because of branches. I still place it in 2022.

 

[selfishmisery]

Random factoid: Dr. Jason Woodrue is mentioned in the 1990 Swamp Thing show and does primarily monster experiments akin to his counterpart in Batman & Robin.

 

[selfishmisery]

Random factoid: Dr. Jason Woodrue is mentioned in the 1990 Swamp Thing show and does primarily monster experiments akin to his counterpart in Batman & Robin.

Also in the Fountain of Youth episode ("The Chains of Forever") - Anton Arcane literally spouts "BLOODY HELL! It's Batman & Robin..." sarcastically when Swamp Thing and his human sidekick pop up.

 

[selfishmisery]

Random factoid: Dr. Jason Woodrue is mentioned in the 1990 Swamp Thing show and does primarily monster experiments akin to his counterpart in Batman & Robin.

Also in the Fountain of Youth episode ("The Chains of Forever") - Anton Arcane literally spouts "BLOODY HELL! It's Batman & Robin..." sarcastically when Swamp Thing and his human sidekick pop up.

I'm arguing for Earth-97 btw lol.

 

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Random factoid: Dr. Jason Woodrue is mentioned in the 1990 Swamp Thing show and does primarily monster experiments akin to his counterpart in Batman & Robin.

Also in the Fountain of Youth episode ("The Chains of Forever") - Anton Arcane literally spouts "BLOODY HELL! It's Batman & Robin..." sarcastically when Swamp Thing and his human sidekick pop up.

So they probably exist in that show's reality, assuming they're real.

I'm arguing for Earth-97 btw lol.

Swamp Thing probably takes place in 1990-1993, so before Dick Grayson became Robin in the Schumacher timeline. Wouldn't really work too well probably.


Just some more interesting characters and places off the top of my head.

Hawkman (Earth-90)

Carter Hall (Flash 1990 TV Series)

Dr. Carter Hall was an associate of Tina McGee. Tina McGee mentioned Dr. Carter Hall in passing when Megan Lockhart posed as a new intern at S.T.A.R. Labs. This version of the character is exclusive to the continuity of the television series The Flash and is an adaptation of Carter Hall. The...

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Hawkman (Flash 1990 TV Series)

Hawkman was seemingly killed, shortly before his universe was destroyed. Hawkman was portrayed by an uncredited actor. Carter Hall was mentioned in the Flash episode "Watching the Detectives". However, it is unknown if this Hawkman is Hall. He appears to be a young man, while Carter Hall would...

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Thanagarians (Earth-89/789)


Hal Jordan (Earth-89/789)


Central City (Earth-89/789)

 

[selfishmisery]

So they probably exist in that show's reality, assuming they're real.


Swamp Thing probably takes place in 1990-1993, so before Dick Grayson became Robin in the Schumacher timeline. Wouldn't really work too well probably.

There's a "Thursday, April 15, (blurry year)" newspaper date in the series finale ("That's a Wrap"). That's about it. Could be 1993, could be 1999. The year is completely impossible to read.

I've watched the whole series and I looked for these dates.

 

[selfishmisery]

Hal Jordan (Earth-89/789)
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Or his dad. If you wanna assume Earth-789 (by comic multiverse numbering) is post-Crisis/Flashpoint Earth-12 in the live-action multiverse.

 

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Or his dad. If you wanna assume Earth-789 (by comic multiverse numbering) is post-Crisis/Flashpoint Earth-12 in the live-action multiverse.

Interesting idea, though I think it was supposed to be Hal. The Guardians of the Universe were mentioned in Supergirl: Director's Cut, btw. There's definitely a Green Lantern presence.

 

[Pro Bot]

If we're gonna go down non-canon possibilities, I always liked the idea that Steel could have been inspired by Reeve's Superman. There's no evidence for that of course, but it'd be neat.

 

[selfishmisery]

If we're gonna go down non-canon possibilities, I always liked the idea that Steel could have been inspired by Reeve's Superman. There's no evidence for that of course, but it'd be neat.

"It's hammer time"

 

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"It's hammer time"
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"You ain't Superman!"

"Where'd he go?"
"The Batcave."

"I could be Robin!"

 

[Pro Bot]

Maybe Steel is in the Superman Lives Universe, lol.

 

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Strange visitor : Simonson, Louise : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Superman returns.

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No one told me there was a Superman Returns prequel novel.

 

[Pro Bot]

Archive.org is being really slow and not loading all the pages. Great.

The novel apparently depicts Superman fighting a clone of himself (Bizarro) and Metallo. Bizarro could technically count as Superman fighting himself, as mentioned in Crisis, despite that actually being an intentional reference to Superman III. Nice accidental continuity though.

 

[eloesch289]

Archive.org is being really slow and not loading all the pages. Great.

yes unfortunately they were a victim of a massive cyberattack a few weeks ago, theyve been working on getting the archive back up again, luckily all of the data survived but a lot of peoples information was apparently leaked

 

[selfishmisery]

Archive.org is being really slow and not loading all the pages. Great.

The novel apparently depicts Superman fighting a clone of himself (Bizarro) and Metallo. Bizarro could technically count as Superman fighting himself, as mentioned in Crisis, despite that actually being an intentional reference to Superman III. Nice accidental continuity though.

Metallo was in the Superman Returns game. Is that compatable or some alternate timeline?

 

[Pro Bot]

Metallo was in the Superman Returns game. Is that compatable or some alternate timeline?

Probably an alternate timeline, since that's concurrent to the film and it probably doesn't fit within the timeline.

Catwoman 80th Anniversary, "Now You See Me" actually fits better during the events of Batman Returns, since Penguin is alive seemingly. I think it fits well after "I am Catwoman. Hear me roar..." I would say.

 

[Pro Bot]

The Richard Donner Cut having that scene in the diner where Clark takes his revenge makes no sense. I don't know why they kept it. If that was a Donner scene I'm very confused.

The diner guy says that he's just fixed the place back up (after Rocky beat the crap out of Clark), and Clark tells them he's been "working out"... except they've never met Clark before in their life so why would he explain that to them? From Rocky's perspective, some random guy came into the diner, called him garbage and then humiliated him.

At the same time, it doesn't make complete sense to say that the theatrical cut is the new timeline created at the end, because that means that a bunch of characters happened to be in the same place at the exact same time at a later date, which is very improbable. Unless both cuts happened at the exact same time in-universe (in different timelines) I guess, and the ending of TRDC where everyone has déjà vu takes place pretty much immediately after Superman: The Movie? But this would assume that Clark completely forgets the previous timeline pretty much instantly, unless the version of Clark that changes the past gets erased from existence (because think about it, there would be a version of him that already exists in the past). The commentary notes that Zod could return since he's back in the Phantom Zone at the end as well.

I guess I'll just let the Donner Cut make no sense on it's own.

 

[Jack Wayne]

Also, The Flash cameos, if we place them in 2013, cannot precede Crisis on Infinite Earths. This is because it's part of the Post-Crisis timeline, thus this hypothetical Earth-96 would diverge from 2013. I suppose that could be a reason why he's wearing the yellow colours in Crisis Part 5, because of branches. I still place it in 2022.

These images best represent my theory on how Earth-96 could work.
Everything is known but post crisis as is known, some things changed like the kingdom come event, post crisis Joker failed to kill the people of the Daily Planet, an event that happened approximately 1 year before the events of crisis.
Maybe one more change could be the existence of supergirl.
Post crisis supergirl existed which would explain the cameo of Chris Reeve and Helen Slater in The Flash, this crossover took place while in the earth of Flashpoint it was the year 2013, it is not far-fetched that it is also 2013 in that universe that we saw with Reeve and Slater, since if it were Earth-96, it would make perfect sense considering that Superman IV happened last year.

 

[Jack Wayne]

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Superman returns.

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No one told me there was a Superman Returns prequel novel.

uh, I'm pretty sure I've mentioned her at least a couple of times in one of these timeline threads, be it this one or the dark knight trilogy one for some reason or the original thread about the 4 Reeve movies timeline.