Zombipanda
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Re: Batman Series Discussion *Spoilers*
Damien-Batman's costume is stupid.
Damien-Batman's costume is stupid.
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Batman/Detective Comics Series Discussion *Spoilers*
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Re: Batman Series Discussion *Spoilers*
Its the end of the world..Fashon sence went out the window
Its the end of the world..Fashon sence went out the window
Zombipanda
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Am I the only one who read this month's issue?
I have mixed feelings about it. Some of the art was absolutely gorgeous but most of it looked ugly as sin.
And Morrison's writing was a little too much. There were some cool metaphors, but he had at least one simile in practically ever damn sentence, and a lot of them were just plain awful. It was like he couldn't figure out if he wanted to write a pulp noir story or satirize one.
Despite that, the story was still packed with more interesting ideas than most writers can fit into a whole arc. The new Joker is going to be dope. Harley's new direction is interesting.... and the idea of having a sub-culture of crime-clowns is one of the coolest things ever. This is the second time in his Batman run that he's alluded to these weird little communities of professional henchman. I hope we see more of it.
Am I the only one who read this month's issue?
I have mixed feelings about it. Some of the art was absolutely gorgeous but most of it looked ugly as sin.
And Morrison's writing was a little too much. There were some cool metaphors, but he had at least one simile in practically ever damn sentence, and a lot of them were just plain awful. It was like he couldn't figure out if he wanted to write a pulp noir story or satirize one.
Despite that, the story was still packed with more interesting ideas than most writers can fit into a whole arc. The new Joker is going to be dope. Harley's new direction is interesting.... and the idea of having a sub-culture of crime-clowns is one of the coolest things ever. This is the second time in his Batman run that he's alluded to these weird little communities of professional henchman. I hope we see more of it.
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ProjectX2
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I really enjoyed the latest issue. It was very creepy, and I think it's my favourite Morrison Batman issue yet.
I was a bit confused by the end though. Did Harley shoot Joker? Is he dead? What's happening? Am I missing a page?
I really enjoyed the latest issue. It was very creepy, and I think it's my favourite Morrison Batman issue yet.
I was a bit confused by the end though. Did Harley shoot Joker? Is he dead? What's happening? Am I missing a page?
Dr.Strangefate
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The Joker shot Harley, but he's definitely not dead. Batman's dragging him back to his cell where he'll be patched back up... But I have to say that the new incarnation of the Joker is so utterly terrifying that I can't get certain images out of my head.
I felt Morrison used a few too many cliches as he wrote the text, but I also feel like that was intentional, and that he was trying to use the cliches to point out the fact that the entire "Batman fights The Joker and in the end Joker goes back to Arkham" scenario is a cliche in itself. He was using the negative connotations of the work to make something greater... That said, I'm not sure it worked entirely the way he intended.
Despite the flaws, this has immediately entered the realm of "definitive Joker stories" and I hope to God Morrison uses this new Joker to cap off the arc with the aforementioned "holocaust" he intends to unleash upon Gotham.
I do wonder what this means for Harley, but hopefully we'll see her again soon.
This is BY FAR the best issue of Morrison's run so far... I hope he keeps the more Morrisonian feel of this issue and combines it with his crazy imagination to make the next issues of the series as definitive as his run on New X-Men.
Lets see the next few solicits:
664 -
The Dark Knight discovers a cover-up that could change his relationship with the Gotham Police Department as Grant Morrison, Andy Kubert and Jesse Delperdang continue their landmark run on BATMAN! A routine investigation into police corruption leads to a terrifying confrontation with a monstrous menace that threatens to end Batman's career!
665 -
The "Three Ghosts of Batman" continues as Batman tries to discover the mysterious contents of Casebook X! This issue takes us back to Batman's early days and reveals the truth about his final confrontation with Joe Chill, the man who murdered his parents. It also ties in to 52, as we learn what really happened to Batman inside the cave in Nanda Parbat when he underwent a seven-day Buddhist isolation ritual to purge his negative karma.
And we've all seen the solicit for 666...
It sounds interesting, especially morrison writing Batman going through a Buddist ritual and looking inside himself and all that jazz. I'm just worried he'll fall back in line for more typical stories in the line of "Batman & Son" rather than go for the big ideas and issues that make us think... i mean, I really liked B&S, but it wasn't really up to Morrison's standards. I would say that 663 met those standards quite admirably.
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The Joker shot Harley, but he's definitely not dead. Batman's dragging him back to his cell where he'll be patched back up... But I have to say that the new incarnation of the Joker is so utterly terrifying that I can't get certain images out of my head.
I felt Morrison used a few too many cliches as he wrote the text, but I also feel like that was intentional, and that he was trying to use the cliches to point out the fact that the entire "Batman fights The Joker and in the end Joker goes back to Arkham" scenario is a cliche in itself. He was using the negative connotations of the work to make something greater... That said, I'm not sure it worked entirely the way he intended.
Despite the flaws, this has immediately entered the realm of "definitive Joker stories" and I hope to God Morrison uses this new Joker to cap off the arc with the aforementioned "holocaust" he intends to unleash upon Gotham.
I do wonder what this means for Harley, but hopefully we'll see her again soon.
This is BY FAR the best issue of Morrison's run so far... I hope he keeps the more Morrisonian feel of this issue and combines it with his crazy imagination to make the next issues of the series as definitive as his run on New X-Men.
Lets see the next few solicits:
664 -
The Dark Knight discovers a cover-up that could change his relationship with the Gotham Police Department as Grant Morrison, Andy Kubert and Jesse Delperdang continue their landmark run on BATMAN! A routine investigation into police corruption leads to a terrifying confrontation with a monstrous menace that threatens to end Batman's career!
665 -
The "Three Ghosts of Batman" continues as Batman tries to discover the mysterious contents of Casebook X! This issue takes us back to Batman's early days and reveals the truth about his final confrontation with Joe Chill, the man who murdered his parents. It also ties in to 52, as we learn what really happened to Batman inside the cave in Nanda Parbat when he underwent a seven-day Buddhist isolation ritual to purge his negative karma.
And we've all seen the solicit for 666...
It sounds interesting, especially morrison writing Batman going through a Buddist ritual and looking inside himself and all that jazz. I'm just worried he'll fall back in line for more typical stories in the line of "Batman & Son" rather than go for the big ideas and issues that make us think... i mean, I really liked B&S, but it wasn't really up to Morrison's standards. I would say that 663 met those standards quite admirably.
5/5
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Re: Batman Series Discussion *Spoilers*
not a batman comic but to do with him
http://www.comicbookbin.com/batmanlegends0212.html
this is very cool
not a batman comic but to do with him
http://www.comicbookbin.com/batmanlegends0212.html
this is very cool
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When you guys say ''New'' Joker do you mean its a diferent person or that he has a new personality?
I havent gotten the chance to read the issue.
When you guys say ''New'' Joker do you mean its a diferent person or that he has a new personality?
I havent gotten the chance to read the issue.
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Dr.Strangefate
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Read the issue... Its a bit complex... He's essentially a whole new twisted form of creepy who has had all emotional restraints electroshocked out of him... Totally Amoral in the worst possible way.
Morrison explains it a whole lot better than I do.
Read the issue... Its a bit complex... He's essentially a whole new twisted form of creepy who has had all emotional restraints electroshocked out of him... Totally Amoral in the worst possible way.
Morrison explains it a whole lot better than I do.
Zombipanda
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Morrison puts forth the idea that the Joker doesn't have an actual personality. Instead, he's basically chaos in human form. And when he gets sick with a personality, he sheds his old persona like a snake skin and develops a new one. He calls the new personality "The Devil Joker", and while we haven't seen much of him yet, he seems to simply be the personification of death and destruction.
Morrison puts forth the idea that the Joker doesn't have an actual personality. Instead, he's basically chaos in human form. And when he gets sick with a personality, he sheds his old persona like a snake skin and develops a new one. He calls the new personality "The Devil Joker", and while we haven't seen much of him yet, he seems to simply be the personification of death and destruction.
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I am seriously scared ****less after reading the new issue.
Morrison crafted a whole new level for the Joker. I never imagined the day he would turn of Harley Quinn.
Best Batman-Joker ever.
I am seriously scared ****less after reading the new issue.
Morrison crafted a whole new level for the Joker. I never imagined the day he would turn of Harley Quinn.
Best Batman-Joker ever.
Zombipanda
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Wait.... Really??? Because Joker's always treated Harley like crap. I just always assumed all the old writers were just too chicken-**** to have him really tear into her.
Wait.... Really??? Because Joker's always treated Harley like crap. I just always assumed all the old writers were just too chicken-**** to have him really tear into her.
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But there still seemed to be this bond between them.
But there still seemed to be this bond between them.
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Re: Batman Series Discussion *Spoilers*
No Harley thought they had a bond.
Joker treated her as any of his other henchmen
...after all he has tried to kill her on more than one ocasion
and is Joker/Harley over?
No Harley thought they had a bond.
Joker treated her as any of his other henchmen
...after all he has tried to kill her on more than one ocasion
and is Joker/Harley over?
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I'm interested to see what she does, will she continue on her self destructive crush or finally break away
I'm interested to see what she does, will she continue on her self destructive crush or finally break away
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Truthfully she's not that interesting or a threat alone.
Maybe she will team up with Ivy more often now
Truthfully she's not that interesting or a threat alone.
Maybe she will team up with Ivy more often now
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Ivy and Harley so need to have a graphic lesbian affair where its so bad their comics can only be bought by adults
Ivy and Harley so need to have a graphic lesbian affair where its so bad their comics can only be bought by adults
Zombipanda
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Re: Batman Series Discussion *Spoilers*
Rumor is, she's going to be showing up in Birds of Prey soon.
Rumor is, she's going to be showing up in Birds of Prey soon.
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"Good format idea and good story-telling make good book."
Yeah... It was like the prose story for the first volume of LoEG (wait, let me go Wiki the name) "Allan and the Sundered Veil". I liked both of them, but it takes time to adjust to the language. For Moore's case, (as Neil Gaiman would say) "He's too smart for our own good," but I definitely saw a similarity between both works. I guess it isn't exactly a bad thing, but I found both somewhat jarring to just start and then got moderately used to it. I liked the chapters, though, that way I could put it down quite often.
"Good format idea and good story-telling make good book."
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