Oh also forgot to mention. You can include the Classic versions of all the Game and Watch games as well. Sean's timeline doesn't include them for some reason but the Game and Watch Gallery games have like a hub world where you can access all the G&W games and Mario is there with Mr Game and Watch, so I think Game and Watch in general shares the same universe as Mario. Mr Game and Watch cameos in Donkey Kong Country Returns as well in one of the construction levels. I think the Game and Watch Gallery games go after Partners in Time because young DK Jr is present
Mr Game & Watch is only in Smash and the G&W gallery games, so this wouldn’t warrant an inclusion.

Also, just want to note that Game & Watch games look like how they do because they use LCD screens, however Mr Game & Watch just looks like that so someone appearing in a G&W game that bears some resemblance to Mr Game & Watch wouldn’t mean it’s necessarily Mr G&W
 
Mr Game & Watch is only in Smash and the G&W gallery games, so this wouldn’t warrant an inclusion.

Also, just want to note that Game & Watch games look like how they do because they use LCD screens, however Mr Game & Watch just looks like that so someone appearing in a G&W game that bears some resemblance to Mr Game & Watch wouldn’t mean it’s necessarily Mr G&W
Well in G&W Gallery he looks like that next to regular Mario1000000373.jpg
 
Well in G&W Gallery he looks like that next to regular MarioView attachment 4491
He even acts out the game and watch games in the end credits, like he morphs into the chef and stuff from the classic g&w versions. I know he was made up for smash but I think it's possible they retconned him into Game and Watch canon later on
 
The time frames just don't match up imo it has to be parallel universes with time dilation or else it all falls apart. Also games like Mario is Missing and Mario's Time Machine probably aren't canon because they weren't published by Nintendo, only licensed, they're not really on the same tier as the actually published games, they're never referenced in other material
Licensed can still count.
 
Licensed can still count.
I suppose, just imo they don't really gel with the rest of the series. I still don't think Earth exists in the Mario universe as Mario's world is basically an "earth" more or less. The Earth seen in games like Mario Kart Tour should just be a parallel Earth or Earth-2 situation they travel to. I already gave my reasoning earlier with the floating Peach's castle thing
 
they don't really gel with the rest of the series
There are more sticky-outy games that are undeniably canon. I feel the Tennis games where you play as random humans and there’s nothing Mario-related apart from the very end are less Mario-y, to name a few
 
I already gave my reasoning earlier with the floating Peach's castle thing
Again, I feel portals being the major evidence for alternate universes seems unreasonable. It is very clear that the earlier Mario games intended the Mushroom Kingdom, Sarasaland, etc to be other locations on Earth, since a lot of arcade games were implied to be in New York. Obviously, this was retconned to New Donk, though things like Mario and Luigi living in Brooklyn for some of their life, and there being games set on actual Earth, it seems Nintendo is implying two separate worlds in one universe, connected by a portal. At the very least, the Mushroom World is not meant to be its own version of Earth - that’d be like saying Legend of Zelda takes place on an alternate Earth because there are humans
 
Again, I feel portals being the major evidence for alternate universes seems unreasonable. It is very clear that the earlier Mario games intended the Mushroom Kingdom, Sarasaland, etc to be other locations on Earth, since a lot of arcade games were implied to be in New York. Obviously, this was retconned to New Donk, though things like Mario and Luigi living in Brooklyn for some of their life, and there being games set on actual Earth, it seems Nintendo is implying two separate worlds in one universe, connected by a portal. At the very least, the Mushroom World is not meant to be its own version of Earth - that’d be like saying Legend of Zelda takes place on an alternate Earth because there are humans
There actually is evidence Zelda takes place on an alternate earth. You can see IRL Constellations in the sky and they're in the exact location they'd be if you viewed them from Earth. Also Aounuma and Miyamoto said in an interview once that the Zelda planet is called Earth
 
Well in G&W Gallery he looks like that next to regular Mario
Yes, this was what I was saying. The other Game & Watch games don’t imply characters look like LCD, and including every G&W game because Mr Game & Watch can become different G&W characters would be unintuitive, especially since other G&W games are already on the timeline. You can’t just pick and choose which games are actual Mario canon, and which are Mr Game & Watch transforming into different things
 
Yes, this was what I was saying. The other Game & Watch games don’t imply characters look like LCD, and including every G&W game because Mr Game & Watch can become different G&W characters would be unintuitive, especially since other G&W games are already on the timeline. You can’t just pick and choose which games are actual Mario canon, and which are Mr Game & Watch transforming into different things
The modern versions are with Mario, the classic versions are with Mr G&W, simple. You literally can select both styles in the gallery games.
 

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