Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 5)

[Slyonic]

No, if you're willing to call it quits over this, I'd rather you leave.

I don't appreciate your animosity.
Same goes for those who agree with you that I'm being too harsh (I'm not).
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Honestly says enough about you as the timeline curator. Your way or the highway....

 

[selfishmisery]

Honestly says enough about you as the timeline curator. Your way or the highway....

1.) It's the principle in which I was raised. 2.) I've burned too often by those who refused to be understanding when I tried to be.

So yeah, I don't have to listen to someone who is going to attack my character for removing non-canon material. All bets are off at that point.

EDIT: Laugh reacting when I haven't done so to you. Childish.

 

[selfishmisery]

Conversation's over.

Laugh reacting without a response = block also.

 

[Slyonic]

1.) It's the principle in which I was raised. 2.) I've burned too often by those who refused to be understanding when I tried to be.

I wonder why....

 

[Pro Bot]

Okay, guys. Look at it this way...

1. The books are adaptations, set in different universes.
2. The extra stories are bonuses within the same physical book.
3. The bonuses don't contradict either the MCU or the book's timeline.

So, when you say that the extra stories don't contradict the MCU... well, they also don't contradict the book that they're physically linked to. Wouldn't it make sense to assume that the bonuses are set within the continuity of the adaptation rather than the main reality?

Though, honestly, I'm fine with including them anyway.

 

[Pro Bot]

Imagine it's a DLC for an adaptation game. The DLC doesn't contradict the thing the game is adapting, but the game still contradicts the film. You'd assume the DLC is in the game's timeline, not the film.

 

[selfishmisery]

Okay, guys. Look at it this way...

1. The books are adaptations, set in different universes.
2. The extra stories are bonuses within the same physical book.
3. The bonuses don't contradict either the MCU or the book's timeline.

So, when you say that the extra stories don't contradict the MCU... well, they also don't contradict the book that they're physically linked to. Wouldn't it make sense to assume that the bonuses are set within the continuity of the adaptation rather than the main reality?

Though, honestly, I'm fine with including them anyway.

There's a reasonable response. Thank you, once again.

I will give my thoughts on this later today, however, I have to head into work.

 

[selfishmisery]

I will agree with the idea that I may have let the MCU wiki influence my removal of them a little too much, but mostly from how they explained these contradictions like the Ant Man & the Wasp or Black Panther book it's like several characters are present in places they weren't in the film.

Someone is present in a meeting in the film while one in the book is asleep nowhere near the events.

 

[Pro Bot]

I wonder why....

I know that he can sometimes escalate things too, but honestly, I don't think he'd be unwilling to add them back anyway. There's no need to instigate for... really, both of you. Can't we just discuss it in a rational manner?

Very unnecessary comment.

 

[Slyonic]

Okay, guys. Look at it this way...

1. The books are adaptations, set in different universes.
2. The extra stories are bonuses within the same physical book.
3. The bonuses don't contradict either the MCU or the book's timeline.

So, when you say that the extra stories don't contradict the MCU... well, they also don't contradict the book that they're physically linked to. Wouldn't it make sense to assume that the bonuses are set within the continuity of the adaptation rather than the main reality?

Though, honestly, I'm fine with including them anyway.

Again, my point isn't whether to keep these stories in or not.
The point is these discussions were had in the past, a decision was made and now one person decides the previous decision was invalid without consulting others.
That's not how a community driven timeline is supposed to work.

 

[Pro Bot]

Again, my point isn't whether to keep these stories in or not.
The point is these discussions were had in the past, a decision was made and now one person decides the previous decision was invalid without consulting others.
That's not how a community driven timeline is supposed to work.

Okay, so you've told him. If the community wants to discuss it again, now they can.

 

[Slyonic]

Okay, so you've told him. If the community wants to discuss it again, now they can.

But they did, and all they got was "No.".

 

[Megatron]

tbh they could do a whole ongoing comic series about the F4 adapting classic 1960s comics. They have 4 years to work on.

 

[selfishmisery]

 

[Megatron]

The viewing order isn’t meant to be as easy as possible to watch, otherwise things like Daily Bugle wouldn’t be on there as you’d have to source out a bunch of TikTok shorts (albeit that’s already been done for this, but that’s besides the point). A viewing order is meant to be the most precise way to watch a group of things, without having to switch between things halfway through watching it, because that gets messy, and is what the Detailed Timeline is for

I kind of disagree. For me a simplified order is a guide for new people who are interested in a franchaise to experience it in a way that is engaging and doesn't spoil anything.

That's why I'm always opposed to fully chronological viewing orders as they could spoil things, and also with fully publication orders as they will have you to backtrack a lot.

A middle ground mixing both this orders are what I always do (You can check my ubiverse timeline (2.0) for that.

As for the detailed timeline I always see that more as an informative guide, like you're reading/watching/playing a scene that you tought cool or a flashback and you go like "uihm... when does it take place?" and you check for that scene in the timeline.

But hey! That's just my opinion.

 

[stphylcccs]

For me a simplified order is a guide for new people who are interested in a franchaise to experience it in a way that is engaging and doesn't spoil anything.

People who have already seen a franchise and are looking for a guide would also want a viewing order, though, possibly one that better aligns with the actual order. Personally, I’d create two separate orders (one for first time, one for any other time) though with something as big as this, when there are such little changes to be made for a first time watch order (AoS 5x04 and 5x05 switching is the only one I’m aware of) so it would be pointless to make them separate

 

[Megatron]

People who have already seen a franchise and are looking for a guide would also want a viewing order, though, possibly one that better aligns with the actual order. Personally, I’d create two separate orders (one for first time, one for any other time) though with something as big as this, when there are such little changes to be made for a first time watch order (AoS 5x04 and 5x05 switching is the only one I’m aware of) so it would be pointless to make them separate

well tbh if you've already seen a franchaise already, why would you need one? I think you could put a chronological reading order yourself.

Also yeah, I agree with you that having 2 would be pointless, but again, I think a first time order is more important.

If you try to experience a franchaise for the first time (and we're talking about big and complicate ones), you'd have to search for one.

If you plan to rewatch iit in full chronological order, you have already the knowledge to do so yourself.

 

[stphylcccs]

well tbh if you've already seen a franchaise already, why would you need one? I think you could put a chronological reading order yourself.

If I were to watch something again, I’d want to just get an order and watch it like that, instead of having to make one myself - which would take a lot of research, time and effort. If I were to make a detailed timeline for something, the least I could do is give a simplified version for casual viewers on a second watch-through

 

[BabyBomber]

Late to the party but I think the Bonus Stories should stay

 

[gerosuprastyles]

I really like it when people create these images