UbiVerse - Timeline (V2.0)

[Megatron]

... except I'm referring to the modern-day segments of the French comics, as there, Lucy isn't a triple-agent for the Templars like she is in the games, Clay/Subject 16 is still alive as opposed to being more deader in the games than Jimmy Hoffa, and just the sheer amount of inconsistency/incompatibility with the modern-day storyline of the games at the time.

Look, I'm not saying the Aquilus stuff isn't canon. Maybe it happens. Maybe it doesn't. But the fact of the matter is that the modern-day portions REALLY don't work with the current modern-day canon. Like, I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with including the modern-day side of the French comics on the timeline as a whole.

yeah, but Violet's line refers to all 3 of the segments, Ancient Rome, Medival Egypt and Modern Day. If even 1 of them is proved as canon it drags everyone with them.

And infact we had in 2019 ACIII remasered with Aquilus and Forgotten Temple has the Scepter of Aset in it. 2/3

So we return to Violet's line in Rogue for it to make sense all 3 of the timeperiods must be canon or non-canon.

2/3 has been proved canon, so yeah. In some weird way it has to be.

Tbh Assassin's Creed is a saga that relies on retcons for example Lucy def wasn't a triple agent in ACI and ACII but was retconned in ACB just coz Ubi didn't want to pay her VA, it was so bad that they explained it in a rushed way in Revelations' Lost Archive that needed the confirmation in ACIII and even in an optional dialogue; jeez the abstergo facility wasn't even in Italy in AC1 but was retconned in ACII.

Subject 16 in the comics is called Micheal.... uhm... so technically they aren't the same person. Also he appears just in the 1st number.

So you have 2 ways or it's canon or it isn't canon. Personally I'd lean on the latter, but Ubi is still stubborn to consider those comics, so as this timeline follows a rule to have all the canon media in it, the comics must stay.

My resonings for putting it simple, is that AC and retcons are married together since 2009, when contradictions happens the newest informations trumps the older ones, when Ubi was clever in 2014 and let Violet say that line, it was to make the french comics Non-Canon. But as I said, 2019 and 2023 came and confirmed it wrong, but we have to still make sense of what came before, so how to make sense of Violet's line with the newest informations? Or everything was a fake or it did happened and they don't know. ACIII and FT says it otherwise and so we're stuck with this. Maybe in the future they'll make them non-canon again.

In the end it isn't less different on what Konami did with Portable Ops and Rising, switching their canon status over time.

P.S. I hope it didn't sound rude and I apologise if it sounded like that as it wasn't the intention, I'm actually with you 2 on this one, but my own rules and what Ubi did bounds me. Tho yeah, sometimes I'm a bit passionate.

 

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yeah, but Violet's line refers to all 3 of the segments, Ancient Rome, Medival Egypt and Modern Day. If even 1 of them is proved as canon it drags everyone with them.

Here's the full line for context, with the underlined part:

Juhani: That's the file that led me to this bland shit pile. Is there anything else? Anything outside of official Abstergo [sic] records?
Violet: Nobody's ever seen this thing. There's all kinds of stories about is history... from Roman Gallia, Egypt during the Middle Ages, and even a cell of modern-day Assassins. Oh, and apparently it raises the dead.
Juhani: Is there any evidence to support this?
Violet: None at all. You know what I think? I think this is bullshit the Assassins are spreading around so that people like us waste our valuable time sniffing after it. Smells like a trap.

Violet specifically states that no evidence supports the Anhk's existence, and dismisses it as BS that the Assassins are spreading to waste Templar resources on a wild goose chase. If anything, it shows that while the comics are still non-canon, they're giving a wink and nod to it.

Tbh Assassin's Creed is a saga that relies on retcons for example Lucy def wasn't a triple agent in ACI and ACII but was retconned in ACB just coz Ubi didn't want to pay her VA, it was so bad that they explained it in a rushed way in Revelations' Lost Archive that needed the confirmation in ACIII and even in an optional dialogue; jeez the abstergo facility wasn't even in Italy in AC1 but was retconned in ACII.

Yes, I recall that story about Kristen Bell and UbiSoft, and besides, it's not the first time IRL stuff caused them to rewrite things, as the death of Lita Tresierra in a car accident meant that Rosa (a character she voiced in AC2) had to be written out of the series after AC2, despite there being more plans for her down the line (as well as being a potential love interest for Ezio).

Subject 16 in the comics is called Micheal.... uhm... so technically they aren't the same person. Also he appears just in the 1st number.

Only in the French version, whereas they renamed him to Clay in the English release for consistency.

In the end it isn't less different on what Konami did with Portable Ops and Rising, switching their canon status over time.

... I'm pretty sure that was Kojima, and NOT Konami. And AFAIK, Portable Ops and Rising have always been canon in my eyes.

P.S. I hope it didn't sound rude and I apologise if it sounded like that as it wasn't the intention, I'm actually with you 2 on this one, but my own rules and what Ubi did bounds me. Tho yeah, sometimes I'm a bit passionate.

Look, I get it. You wanna include the French comics. That's fine. But again, the comic's modern-day storyline just absolutely cannot work with the game's modern-day storyline. And I'm sticking to that opinion.

 

[Megatron]

Violet specifically states that no evidence supports the Anhk's existence, and dismisses it as BS that the Assassins are spreading to waste Templar resources on a wild goose chase. If anything, it shows that while the comics are still non-canon, they're giving a wink and nod to it.

Ik... I literally said that this line made the comics not canon. Buuut... that is Rogue (Came out in 2014) So I'll try to explain better why, I decided to add it.

ACIII Remastered (Came out in 2019):



Assassin's Creed Forgotten Temple (Came out in 2023):

https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Scepter_of_Aset

So when dealing with retcons we know that newer informations trumps older ones. But Rogue's info was a line, which now we have to make sense of it. Ence if Violet's line has to make sense she must be right or wrong in what she's saying, and this 2 informations tells us that she was wrong apparently.

So I'm willing to add the Modern Day storyline of those comics, but I'd have prefered not to. It isn't my fault if Ubi can't decide for once.

P.S. I'm not Spanish or Latino, but that is the only pic I found about that text in ACIII Remastered.