Transformers Movie Universe - Timeline

[Pro Bot]

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_Rise_of_the_Beasts_(film)

G.I. Joe and Transformers have frequently crossed over in comics and the occasional toyline over the years, though this marks the first time the two have co-existed in a feature film. Notably, the G.I. Joe insignia on Burke's business card is the version introduced in the film G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra.

They had to use the same logo, huh? Well, they can't be canon anyway so it doesn't really matter right now.

A poster for Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins uses the same logo from the 2009 series. In the actual film, I believe they use a different logo... but theoretically, Snake Eyes can be canon to Transformers.

 

[Pro Bot]

Snake Eyes (2021) Timeline
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Morning Light: A Weapon with Stories to Tell (0:00:32 - 0:01:33)

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Morning Light: A Weapon with Stories to Tell (0:01:34 - 0:02:03)

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Morning Light: A Weapon with Stories to Tell (0:02:04 - 0:02:48)

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Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins

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Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins
Morning Light: A Weapon with Stories to Tell (0:00:00 - 0:00:31)
Morning Light: A Weapon with Stories to Tell (0:02:49 - 0:03:07)

Interestingly, the blu-ray extra short has scenes with Snake Eyes in costume from the end of the film doing action poses and about to fight Storm Shadow, so I guess it's a sequel kinda. Should this film be considered canon, it does limit what they can do with the G.I. Joe crossover, but they did say (I think?) that they want to use more obscure characters so I guess it could work? But what's even the point if you can't use Snake Eyes? Either way, Snake Eyes is canon or none of them are and we get a new universe (as far as G.I. Joe is concerned).

 

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Hey everyone
I was watching Bumblebee (2018) and wondered about its timeline, so I came here. There seems to not be a specific month of when it happens in 1987, but I gathered some clues and figured that it's supposed to be set in mid-October to early-November 1987. Since:

–When Charlie and her mom are arguing, Charlie says "In ten months from now, you won't even have to deal with me", suggesting she's going to start her final year in high school and leave after the summer ends in August. This brings us to November.

–Also, earlier, Charlie plays The Smiths' album "Strangeways, Here We Come", which came out on September 28, 1987, and she says "It's brand new".

Oh, and I think there's supposed to be a time-jump between the prologue (B-127 escaping in the pod, crashlanding on Earth, Blitzwing taking out his voice box, and him scanning the Volkswagen before shutting down) and the first time we see Charlie (her going to work and then to the scrapyard). It has to be at least a few weeks apart, maybe 4 weeks, since B-127 in Beetle form has a honeycomb in its fender, and I searched, and it takes a honeycomb about 4 weeks to grow to the point we see in the film. So, that would happen in mid-September 1987.

What do y'all think? Can we settle the film on those months?

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Hey everyone
I was watching Bumblebee (2018) and wondered about its timeline, so I came here. There seems to not be a specific month of when it happens in 1987, but I gathered some clues and figured that it's supposed to be set in mid-October to early-November 1987. Since:

–When Charlie and her mom are arguing, Charlie says "In ten months from now, you won't even have to deal with me", suggesting she's going to start her final year in high school and leave after the summer ends in August. This brings us to November.

–Also, earlier, Charlie plays The Smiths' album "Strangeways, Here We Come", which came out on September 28, 1987, and she says "It's brand new".

Oh, and I think there's supposed to be a time-jump between the prologue (B-127 escaping in the pod, crashlanding on Earth, Blitzwing taking out his voice box, and him scanning the Volkswagen before shutting down) and the first time we see Charlie (her going to work and then to the scrapyard). It has to be at least a few weeks apart, maybe 4 weeks, since B-127 in Beetle form has a honeycomb in its fender, and I searched, and it takes a honeycomb about 4 weeks to grow to the point we see in the film. So, that would happen in mid-September 1987.

What do y'all think? Can we settle the film on those months?

Excellent analysis!

 

[Pro Bot]

The 28 Days blu-ray includes 24 minutes of footage from the In-Universe Santa Cruz show. I thought, hey, that's cool. I can include that on the timeline.

Then I saw this...

How can the in-universe fiction from the 1980s/1990s (I assume) view the in-universe non-fiction as in-universe fiction within the fiction? I'm so confused. Is this actually set after the movie and the film was adapted into a film which was then a poster in the in-universe show, or did Sandra Bullock (the actor, not her character) star in a film called 28 Days in-universe prior to the events of the actual 28 Days film, which was seen on a poster in the in-universe Santa Cruz show?

 

[Pro Bot]

There's quite a few more extras than I anticipated on that disc, as is reflected by the timeline now.

 

[BB10]

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Are_Dangerous
https://aminoapps.com/c/more-than-m...-dangerous/P3dx_g5tmuDx7xPeaonwrNRLrzQWkwea4V
ARG campaign prequel to AOE.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

I have not seen the original two live action GI Joe films, but why can't they be canon to this timeline?

 

[Pro Bot]

While the G.I. Joe organisation shares the same logo from that universe, the events of the sequel are way too wide to fit. More specifically, they destroy the entirety of London. Somehow, it'd be completely rebuilt in The Last Knight. Also, the pyramid was damaged in RotF, is completely fine in G.I. Joe, but then maintains the damage in TLK.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

While the G.I. Joe organisation shares the same logo from that universe, the events of the sequel are way too wide to fit. More specifically, they destroy the entirety of London. Somehow, it'd be completely rebuilt in The Last Knight. Also, the pyramid was damaged in RotF, is completely fine in G.I. Joe, but then maintains the damage in TLK.

Good enough for me. I am so curious how the next live action film is going to tie in and which universe they go with.

 

[Pro Bot]

The original movie's G.I. Joe logo is on the poster for characters in the Snake Eyes movie... though the organisation itself uses a different logo in the film. Rise of the Beasts uses the logo from the first two films.

 

[Megatron]

Mr. Pro Bot, a question, but will the other Titan Comics stories be added as well?

 

[selfishmisery]

I got a better thread than this one.

https://www.thecomicboard.com/threads/transformers-live-action-continuities-timelines.15038/

 

[Pro Bot]

I got a better thread than this one.

https://www.thecomicboard.com/threads/transformers-live-action-continuities-timelines.15038/

1) You have no reason to be a dick. I made this one first and you made another one because you didn't like it. I didn't complain because I think it's fine to have more than one timeline showing different perspectives.

2) I could point out how I had to correct serveral mistakes you made regarding the IDW comics timeline. You were better... at being incorrect.

Edit:
Also, Friday the 13th isn't "forced". The same actor portraying the same character with the same name, the same car and the same personality, created by the same person? The only reason someone would disagree with linking the two would mainly be for the fact that they don't like Friday the 13th being connected to Transformers. That's fine, but it's not really insane when there's a clear crossover between the two.

 

[Pro Bot]

Mr. Pro Bot, a question, but will the other Titan Comics stories be added as well?

Perhaps.

 

[selfishmisery]

1) You have no reason to be a dick. I made this one first and you made another one because you didn't like it. I didn't complain because I think it's fine to have more than one timeline showing different perspectives.

2) I could point out how I had to correct serveral mistakes you made regarding the IDW comics timeline. You were better... at being incorrect.

 

[Pro Bot]

Perhaps you didn't get it. You were being a dick, I retaliated with equal force. Don't be mean, people won't be mean back. Just let your timeline be separate.

 

[selfishmisery]

Perhaps you didn't get it. You were being a dick, I retaliated with equal force. Don't be mean, people won't be mean back. Just let your timeline be separate.

I'm not getting in this argument. Chill.

 

[Pro Bot]

Thank you.

 

[Pro Bot]

I'm not getting in this argument. Chill.

Proceeds to post two videos in order to continue arguing

What are you starting this argument for? Here's how that'll go:

I'd get Caple's quote where he, unprompted, states that Rise of the Beasts preserves the events of Transformers (2007).

You'll bring up a quote where he says it's a reboot, then I'll bring up that he goes on to explain that it is connected and is more of a soft-reboot.

You'll bring up Bumblebee coming to Earth from Cybertron instead of being there since WW2, then I'll bring up that Ironhide (or someone else) was on Earth before 2007 in The Last Knight despite coming to Earth for what seemed to be the first time in said 2007 movie.

It will be the Unicron argument next, so I'll bring up that he's from the future in Rise of the Beasts, meaning Unicron is either from after The Last Knight or from an alternate timeline.

I'd bring up all of Di Bonaventura's quotes, of which there are many, then you'll say that his opinion doesn't matter (?).

I'd show Knight saying that he wanted Megatron to be in Bumblebee but realised he's frozen on Earth due to the 2007 movie and didn't do it because of the continuity.

I'll then mention all the connections. Sector 7, Seymour Simmons, the licence plate in Bumblebee matching Transformers (2007) exactly, the motion comic having Megatron frozen in ice, the second short video on the Bumblebee blu-ray featuring John Cena referencing NBE-1 (Megatron's designation in 2007), and that new comic using the IDW movie timeline designation and showing Cliffjumper being saved during Bumblebee.



Why not, instead, we just settle it. You have your timeline, I have mine. I'll help you with placements, you can help me with placements, we treat each other with some respect. Right?