I always treated Air Force One as the 3rd film in Harrison Ford’s Jack Ryan trilogy. I have not seen all the later movies or only once so I have no idea if treating James Marshall as his real works. Looking here https://jackryan.fandom.com/wiki/President_of_the_United_States there is gap in that time frame between presidents in the movies.
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Would anyone be interested in seeing a Mario timeline?
Yeah, absolutely!
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I remember watching a Mario timeline a couple years ago, when it came out, that was amazing (and 5 hours…) but it’s fairly outdated now and there’s some things I disagree with (eg their criteria for including other franchises was very strict, only including games distributed by Nintendo or had the crossover on a Nintendo console - the latter of which only including the one game, not the whole franchise) so I’d shuffle a few things they did, as well as add other games I think should be included that they didn’t and add the newer games.
I’d probably include the prologue narratives in the instruction manuals that Nintendo made for their games, too, as well as any other forms of media that I could fit, that wasn’t included (eg Rabbids Invasion, not just the Rabbid games - yes, Rabbids is part of the Mario universe)
I’d probably include the prologue narratives in the instruction manuals that Nintendo made for their games, too, as well as any other forms of media that I could fit, that wasn’t included (eg Rabbids Invasion, not just the Rabbid games - yes, Rabbids is part of the Mario universe)
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Interestingly, they placed any game that didn’t have any other dates to go off, on their release day (not just an arbitrary point during that year). While I’m not really sure how to think about this, due to the sheer amount of games and how many released in such short spans (at least in Mario’s early days) it would make much more sense to just say they happen on release day, as having loads of games in rapid succession - possibly even in the same month - would only really work timeline-wise if you assumed they did take place on their release dates
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I’m also not sure if I’m for or against the 2 Mario’s theory, since at this point in time (assuming there isn’t a floating timeline - which actually has more evidence against than you’d think) he’d be in his 80s…
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Yeah, shouldn't Sonic count? At least Smash Bros is specifically an alternate version following a whole fictive layer thing.
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Maybe Mario and friends have unexplained slower aging. We don't have enough information, I think.
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I've seen people say that Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games isn't canon due to... uh... the fact it's a crossover? I don't personally understand that, but maybe there's a statement making it a unique crossover universe.
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No, that is canon. I’ll explain it better if I do an actual thread, cuz otherwise I’d get a lot of questions about contradictions between the Mushroom World and Earth, but all you need to know is that the Sonic characters are established to travel across to the Mario universe
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Yoshi’s Island establishes Mario (among other, mostly unnamed characters) were procreated by stork, which actually does hold up some consistency throughout the games. Characters procreated by stork don’t have belly buttons (eg the Mario Bros.), whereas those procreated by normal means do have belly buttons (eg Princess Peach)
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I’ll finish setting the groundworks based on that other video (which I’ll probably link) then I’ll make the thread. I just wanna be able to have everything down from that groundwork, without adding to the thread post-creation
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Just finished that Mario Timeline video and… they actually have a really good theory as to why people don’t age.
Mario Galaxy establishes that in (presumably) 1707, Rosalina left the Mushroom World with the Lumas and powered her observatory, as well as her powers, with Power Stars. It would make sense that the thing giving her power, also grants her youth (since she is hundreds of years old) so since Power Stars appear so frequently in the Mushroom World (or, at least, the Mushroom Kingdom) it can be assumed that this is keeping people youthful
Mario Galaxy establishes that in (presumably) 1707, Rosalina left the Mushroom World with the Lumas and powered her observatory, as well as her powers, with Power Stars. It would make sense that the thing giving her power, also grants her youth (since she is hundreds of years old) so since Power Stars appear so frequently in the Mushroom World (or, at least, the Mushroom Kingdom) it can be assumed that this is keeping people youthful
The premise of the character is that he's a pencil-pusher (/professor of naval history), not someone who needs a secret identity.
In Shadow Recruit he gives the name "John Patrick Ryan" as he joins the Marines, and writes his dissertation as "John P Ryan", long before he comes to the CIA's attention.
Also, the various Jack Ryans all seem to get doctors named "Cathy" as wives or potential love interests...
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