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Master of TOG-fu.
Which did you think was better?
New X-Men.
Breakworld was boring and took up far too much time, Danger was meh. The character moments were great....but Astonishing just can't win against New X-Men.
Exactly. I hadn't thought about it that way before, but you're right. The villains, for the most part, were unremarkable.
And that's the way I typically feel about the X-Men. The characters have had so much time to grow and develop that the core cast of mutants has reached an exceptional level of depth. But the villains always seem to fall short, always feel a little silly, a little shallow. I think it's endemic of the X-Men in general, and not just Whedon's run.
As for the idea of the Danger Room gaining consciousness, I actually think it's a wicked idea. But Whedon's execution of the concept just made me grimace.
New X-Men. Astonishing is basically fanfiction based on New X-Men.
Both are better than every other X-Men run though.
That said, these two runs are pretty much the best X-runs ever, as others have said, and a testament to the stupidity of retconning Morrison's run.
I...I agree with you!! :shock:Terrific poll, Tog.
I gotta say - ASTONISHING X-MEN is the trump here. Firstly, it doesn't suffer from the continually changing artists that Morrison's NEW X-MEN run did.
NEW X-MEN may be more innovative/revolutionary, but ASTONISHING X-MEN is far more iconic and entertaining.
Plus... it was pretty innovative. #1 came up with, hands down, the best concept for the X-MEN since their exception - a "cure" for the mutant genome. It's a perfect idea for them and no one had ever gone there. It was such a good idea that it was immediately used for X3.
ASTONISHING X-MEN trumps this for me, no question. If I had to sit down and re-read one of those runs right now, it would be the Whedon/Cassaday.
That said, these two runs are pretty much the best X-runs ever, as others have said, and a testament to the stupidity of retconning Morrison's run.
I have your back on this 110%.Now, I disagree that the x-books are bad as a whole, but I admit, I wear my mutant colored glasses. The recent Brubaker and Carey runs were great IMHO.
Carey's X-Men was fantastic. Not a fan of Legacy, but Adjectiveless was awesome.Now, I disagree that the x-books are bad as a whole, but I admit, I wear my mutant colored glasses. The recent Brubaker and Carey runs were great IMHO.
I put New X-Men.
Carey's X-Men was fantastic. Not a fan of Legacy, but Adjectiveless was awesome.
I also thoroughly enjoy Bachalo's art and I was disappointed every time Ramos took over for a few issues.Carey's run was my favorite run in a LONG time, and I'm not ashamed to admit, Bachalo just made it heaven to me.
Xorn being revealed as Magneto was the WORST thing about it. It never made sense and Marvel was right to retcon the killer drug addict dead Magneto.
Wait....
what?
The master of magnetism using his head to infiltrate his former best friend's school, to manipulate everyone into the race war he's been calling for for the last 30 years is less believable than...
Introducing a whole new "real Xorn" and having the old Xorn being his like powered zombie brother, hopped up on drugs pretending to be Magneto who is pretending to be Xorn?