Miracleman (Marvel)

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http://www.lorencollins.net/miracleman.html

Unless this is irrelevant now. Confusing!

Only because the true nature of the copyright ownership seems to have been cleared up.

One final note: the above numbers assume that Miracleman was indeed a work-for-hire. Due to the convoluted nature of its rights, there is a possibility that its copyright term will be measured by the lives of its authors. In which case, Miracleman issues would enter the public domain 70 years after the deaths of its authors, which would almost certainly result in an even longer time until the published issues enter the public domain. Assuming, for instance, that Alan Moore passes away at age 80, his issues would enter the public domain no earlier than 2103, and another 14 years would be added to the countdown above.

I would think that because it's work for hire, it's owned by Mick Anglo, who isn't even dead yet. But I'm not sure how they would determine that (or who would) since at the time it was done it wasn't worked hired out by Anglo.

It sounds like there are still more things to figure out before they can reprint the Moore and Gaiman work. Although it is encouraging to hear that Gaiman played a large part in all of this (helping Marvel determine and secure the rights, that is.

And I'm astounded that no one has thought to ask Todd McFarlane his thoughts on this yet. Or have they? I haven't heard anything of the sort.
 
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Unknitting Marvelman - A Look At Possible Remaining Issues

So Marvel own Marvelman. Wonderful. A deal has been made with Emotiv Records of Glasgow, and one John Campbell who has been representing Marvelman creator Mick Anglo. Enough to see Mick and his wife in comfort for the rest of their lives.

This leaves Marvel free to publish the original Marvelman series from the fifties and to create new Marvelman work if they so wish.

However the big news will always be around the reprinting and continuation of the Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman runs on the title. As one of the first deconstructionist superhero comics, it still holds up wonderfully. But what will make this possible? All creators on that run own their work on the Marvelman and Miracleman series. However this may be more comples than the credits might suggest.

Well, I kind of understand that Moore washed his hands of the project, and allowed Campbell to sell on his rights if it will benefit Mick Anglo, and was offered a 10% of cover price on all uses of his material.

While Alan Davis has spoken harshly about the series in the past, specifically that he never approved of his work being reprinted by Eclipse, I understand that earlier this year he came to terms with Marvel over the rights.

Neil Gaiman and Mark Buckingham have always been in favour of Marvel progressing with the series. And Chuck Austen, John Totleben and Rick Veitch would probably be in favour as well.

Garry Leach may need a little persuading. He was an uncredited co-writer on the initial first series, contributing the visual reinterpretations of the characters as well as co-creating the Warpsmiths, which he owns with Moore and now solely controls. Something that accomodates that may be necessary, and I understand it was those concerns that prevented Marvel from announcing that they were to republish the run at San Diego.

But there may be unaddressed issues. Dez Skinn, editor on the initial run when it was first serialised by Warrior, created and owns the character Big Ben (The Man With No Time For Crime), though inserted in the comic against Moore's wishes, and also Dez owns the worldwide rights to the lettering on the series produced by Annie Parkhouse. And I understand that, as of today, Dez Skinn hasn't been approached by Marvel.

And there are other characters to consider, such as Kid Marvelman, created not by Mick Anglo, but by Don Lawrence for Marvelman Family #1. His widow, Elizabeth Lawrence may be interested if Marvel reprint the series.

And of course Todd McFarlane Productions may not agree with Marvel's assessment of their rights to the character.

So yes, there are still potential complications. But we're still in a remarkable position that many could not have conceived of five years ago. Marvelman was born of a lawyer's nightmare, the DC/Fawcett Superman/Captain Marvel case - could it finally be finding closure?

Within the comments of that story is a quote from Alan Moore saying that, to his knowledge, Todd McFarlane has given up his claim on Miracleman.

Also, the subject is brought up about the possibility of DC suing to prevent any future Miracleman releases on the grounds that it is a Captain Marvel ripoff. I can't see that happening since they (presumably) didn't take any action against Eclipse way back when.

Unfortunately the discussion and speculation over the obtaining of the character by Marvel is more interesting than anything Marvel will potentially do with it.
 
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At least we don't have to suffer through a Marvelman Vs. Spawn book.
 
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Marvel to publish the real Marvelman?


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From this week's Cup O' Joe:

Kiel Phegley: We've got an awful lot of questions about the status of Marvelman since Marvel's acquisition of the character. We know that for now there's nothing to report with respect to reprinting material that's already been seen in the U.S., but in terms of the classic character and his place at Marvel, Byzantine echoed a few readers when he asked, "Will we see the character brought into the Earth-616 continuity? Or will he be given his own universe to exist in?"

Joe Quesada
: The simple answer to this is that we'll be making announcements about this in due time. With the acquisition of Marvelman, we inherited a character with not only a long publishing history, but a character that over the years, due to its interesting history, has become a legend in our industry. It's because of that that we want to take great care and really think through what we're doing with the character and how we will present him. I know fans are dying to know all the whats and hows as soon as possible, but rushing into those decisions, at the end of the day, won't serve the character. What I can say is that when we do start to announce our publishing plans, I think longstanding fans of the character will be pleased and fans unfamiliar with the character will be intrigued.


Kiel Phegley: hondobrode followed that up, wondering, "How would Marvelman be different than, say, the Sentry? I would think he would most appropriately fit under the MAX imprint, but I imagine that would also limit sales and exposure. Are you going to change his back-story? Can we expect Marvel to purchase any other properties?"

Joe Quesada
: All of this will be revealed in good time, hondobrode. We've already had some pretty fantastic idea sessions internally here at Marvel about how to go about it all, but there are other cool ideas still on the way that we're going to be throwing into the mix. Once we've gathered all of this, then we'll start laying a groundwork and foundation for the character and that's when fandom will get all of the info it's starving for. I wish I could be more specific, but I think this is better than rushing into things and then hearing that we should have taken our time and thought it through.

Look, folks have waited for decades to see the character return. Heck, most thought he never would. So what's a bit more time? Especially knowing that it's finally going to happen!

Kiel Phegley: Finally, with all the praise sent towards Marvelman creator Mick Anglo and his contributions to the original British strips, Steve Bishop wanted to know, "Given that the Marvelman series that ran in Britain during the '50s and '60s was originally printed in black and white, does Marvel have any plans to put out an 'Essential Marvelman' series?"

Joe Quesada
: Hey there, Steve Bishop. I would say it's a very safe bet that you'll see the older material printed. In what form, I couldn't tell you just yet. This has also been a part of our internal conversations.
 
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Joe Quesada said:
We've already had some pretty fantastic idea sessions internally here at Marvel about how to go about it all

"Why not let Jeph Loeb run with it?"

"Brilliant."
 
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They can't think anyone would buy those old stories. They're awful.
 
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They can't think anyone would buy those old stories. They're awful.

People will buy them if Marvel release them under the title of Marvelman/Miracleman because they will believe that those are the comics everyone is talking about.

The worst thing is Marvel realise this and will do it deliberately, as moonmaster/Bass/E/whoever has said.
 
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Marvel OFFICIALLY Announces "Marvelman Classic" Reprints...

Ending almost a year of speculation, Marvel have finally announced what they're doing with Marvelman: Reprinting his adventures in a new ongoing series. So why do the words "Marvelman Classic" worry us so much?


More info found at the link....but my favorite line comes from the official solicitation:

"....all-new pin ups of key Marvelman characters by superstar artists Mike Perkins, Doug Braithwaite, Miguel Angel Sepulveda, Jae Lee, Khoi Pham and Ben Oliver! This landmark issue features two covers-one with the timeless art of Mick Anglo and another with the now-iconic rendition of Marvelman by Marvel Editor-In-Chief-and superstar artist-Joe Quesada!"


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Don't get me wrong....I love a lot of the work Joe Q has done. He is, in fact, an amazing cover artist. I actually DO love his Marvelman pin-up. But to word it as "now-iconic"? Come on guys.......really?!?!?
 
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now-iconic rendition of Marvelman by Marvel Editor-In-Chief-and superstar artist-Joe Quesada!"

I just lol'd so hard. There is nothing iconic about that drawing. It's good and I like it, but there's nothing iconic about it. Rev up the Marvel hype machine!

As for the book, I couldn't care less. Those issues were awful 50s comic pap. Nothing about the character was even remotely interesting or unique until Alan Moore took over.
 
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"Why not let Jeph Loeb run with it?"

"Brilliant."

I like coming across old posts that I don't remember making. :lol:

Has there been any news on the reprinting of Moore's run yet?
 
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Funny. I was just re-reading through this thread the other day too. What a piece of crap this whole thing is.
 

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