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Between 17 998 and 15 998 BC
Man of Steel – Prequel (pg. 2-18 )

Between 17 988 and 15 988 BC
Man of Steel – Prequel (pg. 19-35)

Between 17 988 and 15 988 BC – 1979 AD
Man of Steel – Prequel (pg. 36-37)

Years Ago
Arrow #3 – Ch. 3, "China White"

Years Ago
Arrow #3 – Ch. 3, "China White"

1979
MAN OF STEEL Ch. ?
Man of Steel – Prequel (pg. 1)

May, 1981
MAN OF STEEL Ch. ?

September, 1988
MAN OF STEEL Ch. ?

1992
MAN OF STEEL Ch. ?

April, 1997
MAN OF STEEL Ch. ?

Years Ago
Arrow #14 – Ch. 14, "Call to the Bar"

July 23rd, 2005 – 7 Years Ago
Arrow #4 – Ch. 4, "Diggle"

2006 – 6 Years Ago
Arrow – Special Edition #1, "Test Drive" (pg. 1-4)

2007 – 5 Years Ago
Arrow #5 – Ch. 5, "Fathoms" (pg. 14-18 )
Arrow 1x01, "Pilot"
Arrow #1 – Ch. 1, "Time's Arrow" (pg. 4)
Arrow 1x01, "Pilot"
Arrow #1 – Ch. 1, "Time's Arrow" (pg. 5-6)
Arrow 1x01, "Pilot"
Arrow 1x02, "Honor Thy Father"
Arrow #1 – Ch. 1, "Time's Arrow" (pg. 1-2)
Arrow 1x02, "Honor Thy Father"
Arrow 1x03, "Lone Gunmen"
Arrow #1 – Ch. 1, "Time's Arrow" (pg. 7)
Arrow 1x03, "Lone Gunmen"
Arrow 1x04, "An Innocent Man"
Arrow 1x05, "Damaged"
Arrow 1x06, "Legacies"
Arrow 1x07, "Muse of Fire"
Arrow 1x08, "Vendetta"
Arrow 1x09, "Year's End"
Arrow 1x10, "Burned"
Arrow 1x11, "Trust But Verify"
Arrow 1x12, "Vertigo"
Arrow 1x13, "Betrayal"
Arrow 1x14, "The Odyssey"
Arrow 1x15, "Dodger"
Arrow 1x16, "Dead of Rights"
Arrow 1x17, "The Huntress Returns"
Arrow 1x18, "Salvation"
Arrow 1x19, "Unfinished Business"
Arrow 1x20, "Home Invasion"
Arrow 1x21, "The Undertaking"
Arrow 1x22, "Darkness on the Edge of Town"
Arrow 1x23, "Sacrifice"

Arrow #16 – Ch. 16, "Sins of the Father"

Years Ago
Arrow #18 – Ch. 18, "Keep 'em Coming"

2008 – 4 Years Ago
Arrow #5 – Ch. 5, "Fathoms" (pg. 1-13, 17-20)

2009 – 3 Years Ago
Arrow #9 – Ch. 9, "Falling"
Arrow #11 – Ch. 11, "Huntress Year One"

2010 – 2 Years Ago
Arrow #11 Ch. 11, "Huntress Year One"

2011 – 1 Year Ago
Arrow #11 Ch. 11, "Huntress Year One"

October, 2012
Man of Steel – Prequel (pg. 38-39)
MAN OF STEEL Ch. ?

October, 2012 - Year 0 (approximately 1839 days since the Queen's Gambit accident)
Arrow 1x01, "Pilot"
Arrow #1 – Ch. 1, "Time's Arrow" (pg. 8 )
Arrow 1x01, "Pilot"
Arrow #1 – Ch. 1, "Time's Arrow" (pg. 13)
Arrow 1x01, "Pilot"
Arrow – Special Edition #1, "Test Drive" (pg. 5-10)
Arrow 1x02, "Honor Thy Father"
Arrow #1 – Ch. 1, "Time's Arrow" (pg. 12)
Arrow 1x02, "Honor Thy Father"
Arrow #1 – Ch. 1, "Time's Arrow" (pg. 11)
Arrow 1x02, "Honor Thy Father"
Arrow #1 – Ch. 1, "Time's Arrow" (pg. 18 )
Arrow 1x02, "Honor Thy Father"
Arrow #1 – Ch. 1, "Time's Arrow" (pg. 3-4, 9-11, 13, 15, 17, 19-20)
Arrow 1x02, "Honor Thy Father"
Arrow 1x03, "Lone Gunmen"
Arrow #1 – Ch. 1, "Time's Arrow" (pg. 15)
Arrow 1x03, "Lone Gunmen"
Arrow #1 – Ch. 1, "Time's Arrow" (pg. 14)
Arrow 1x03, "Lone Gunmen"
Arrow 1x04, "An Innocent Man"
Arrow 1x05, "Damaged"
Arrow 1x06, "Legacies"
Arrow 1x07, "Muse of Fire"
Arrow 1x08, "Vendetta"
Arrow 1x09, "Year's End"

2013 – Year 1
Arrow 1x10, "Burned"
Arrow 1x11, "Trust But Verify"
Arrow 1x12, "Vertigo"
Arrow 1x13, "Betrayal"
Arrow 1x14, "The Odyssey"
Arrow 1x15, "Dodger"
Arrow 1x16, "Dead of Rights"
Arrow 1x17, "The Huntress Returns"
Arrow 1x18, "Salvation"
Arrow 1x19, "Unfinished Business"
Arrow 1x20, "Home Invasion"
Arrow 1x21, "The Undertaking"
Arrow 1x22, "Darkness on the Edge of Town"
Arrow 1x23, "Sacrifice"

October, 2013 - 5 Months after the events of the Glades
Arrow 2x01, "City of Heroes"
Arrow 2x02, "Identity"*
Arrow 2x03, "Broken Dolls"*
Arrow 2x04, "Crucible"*
Arrow 2x05, "League of Assassins"*
Arrow 2x06, "Keep Your Enemies Closer"*
Arrow 2x07, "State vs Queen"*


The Flash series*

BATMAN/SUPERMAN*

JUSTICE LEAGUE*
 
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I said I would do a timeline about Arrow, it's done now!

I've added the DCCU Timeline of DIrishB because there are great chances the Arrow series will be part of this cinematic universe, with the news of The Flash who will be appearing first in Arrow and have his own series later, and with the fact that mister Nolan is behind these series and the DCCU movies.

Titles in Bold are series and movies, when italic are for comics.

Pages will be added later for the comics.. same for movies/series' chapters.

Feel free to ask question(s) about this timeline.
 
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Producers said for the first season, Arrow will not have super-powers and magic, but for season 2, they've changed their mind to feat with future DC projects.

And Stephen Amell said Christopher Nolan has his eyes on all the writers do about the episodes with the Flash/Barry Allen.

Plus the fact that Arrow is said to be like Agents of SHIELD.

See here: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/TheAlexLynch/news/?a=86017


Well, we will see..
 
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Captain France said:
Producers said for the first season, Arrow will not have super-powers and magic, but for season 2, they've changed their mind to feat with future DC projects.

And Stephen Amell said Christopher Nolan has his eyes on all the writers do about the episodes with the Flash/Barry Allen.

Plus the fact that Arrow is said to be like Agents of SHIELD.

See here: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/TheAlexLynch/news/?a=86017

Well, we will see..
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No but the producers/show runners (I think Berlanti) specifically stated the Arrow/Flash TV series are a separate continuity from the Man of Steel movie universe. Right after the Flash series was announced as spinning out of Arrow, there were the obvious rumors about it being connected to the DC Cinematic universe. When asked directly he stated that they weren't connected.

Which is unfortunate, as I'd have liked to see Arrow and Flash series as a part of the DC universe they're building with the films, as you said like the DC version of Agents of SHIELD.
 
Updated for the Arrow's 1st episode of season 2.

"5 months later" is said much time during the episode, and we can conclude easily the earthquake of the Glades happened in May, 2013, if we look at the tombstones in the cemetary.
Which means 5 months later is in October, 2013.

Oliver says it's been one year he comes back from the island. We can assume the first episode of season one was in October too (but 2012).

Knowing all this, there are two new questions regarding Man of Steel:

1/ If Man of Steel and Arrow are in the same universe, why there is no information about what happened in Metropolis in Arrow (as both events happen the same year)?
2/ If Arrow is in its own universe, why introduce a major member of the Justice League in the series (The Flash)? And why Christopher Nolan (producer of Man of Steel) has his eyes on what happen for the Flash in Arrow?
 
Captain France said:
Updated for the Arrow's 1st episode of season 2.

"5 months later" is said much time during the episode, and we can conclude easily the earthquake of the Glades happened in May, 2013, if we look at the tombstones in the cemetary.
Which means 5 months later is in October, 2013.

Oliver says it's been one year he comes back from the island. We can assume the first episode of season one was in October too (but 2012).

Knowing all this, there are two new questions regarding Man of Steel:

1/ If Man of Steel and Arrow are in the same universe, why there is no information about what happened in Metropolis in Arrow (as both events happen the same year)?
2/ If Arrow is in its own universe, why introduce a major member of the Justice League in the series (The Flash)? And why Christopher Nolan (producer of Man of Steel) has his eyes on what happen for the Flash in Arrow?
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The Flash in the show and the one that'll eventually appear in the JL movie are two separate versions of the character. That also explains why no references to the events of Man of Steel are made. As for why they're introducing Flash in the TV verse, it's merely because he's a well known DC character who can attract viewers and whose powers won't be overly expensive or impossible to produce on a TV budget. In fact the super speed thing is a relatively easy power to pull off with special effects.

Like I said, I wish Arrow and the Flash show were extensions of the MoS movie universe, but according to the show's producers it isn't. As for why Nolan is keeping an eye on it, I think that's more due to him being the Joss Whedon of the live action DC projects. It's important to keep in mind that that doesn't necessarily mean they occur in the same continuity. And according to the show's creators, the definitively don't, unfortunately. Also, with Nolan currently working on his new film Interstellar, I doubt he's able to spend much time focusing on the production of the shows, and is much more indirectly involved with the Batman/Superman film. He also had a pretty hands off approach even with Man of Steel.
 
Sorry, Captain France, but it looks as if it wasn't meant to be:

Arrow and Flash TV series not connected to DC Cinematic Universe

That sucks, as I was genuinely hoping they'd tie it together. Does seem like a missed opportunity on WB's part, as well as a bit pointlessly confusing to presumably have two separate, live action version of the Flash character at the same time (television of film). Weird and downright stupid, honestly.
 
"We haven't had any of those conversations other than to say, what characters are we allowed to use this year and advocate or request certain ones that are of interest to us. And every now and then, they'll say, 'You can't have that guy.' They don't say why, and we figure out why later on."
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from Greg Berlanti.

Greg Berlanti just said that he doesn't know if there is connection between Arrow and the DCCU.
Warner Bros is saying nothing about it. It could be waiting to see how people react with The Flash series.

The Arrow producers can use some characters and other not, why?
If it's 100% separated, they could use all the DC characters. Warner just doesn't know for now if it must join the universes or separate them.

Nothing say the 2 universes are separated for now.. even if I doubt they are in the same as I said above in my other post.
 
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The Arrow producers can use some characters and other not, why?
If it's 100% separated, they could use all the DC characters. Warner just doesn't know for now if it must join the universes or separate them.
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Well, when Nolan was making his Batman movies, WB had a strict "no live action Batman shows allowed" policy even though they weren't going to tie into his movies. They just do that.
 
Captain France said:
from Greg Berlanti. Greg Berlanti just said that he doesn't know if there is connection between Arrow and the DCCU. Warner Bros is saying nothing about it. It could be waiting to see how people react with The Flash series. The Arrow producers can use some characters and other not, why? If it's 100% separated, they could use all the DC characters. Warner just doesn't know for now if it must join the universes or separate them. Nothing say the 2 universes are separated for now.. even if I doubt they are in the same as I said above in my other post.
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I know, but:

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Well, when Nolan was making his Batman movies, WB had a strict "no live action Batman shows allowed" policy even though they weren't going to tie into his movies. They just do that.
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As Cap Canuck said, the studio often won't air two live action versions of a character at the same time (film and television Flash, for example) so as not to dilute the brand and confuse the audience.

I also wasn't basing the statement that they're separate universes on only that quote. Berlanti has stated multiple times that he and WB haven't discussed it, or that they're not connected. While that doesn't outright mean they're not (things do change), it certainly indicates they're not. It's also important to look at the logistics of it: if WB/DC were going to connect the film series and TV shows, it'd make more sense for them to publicize it as early as possible to gain hype for the Arrow and Flash shows, to boost ratings. The fact they haven't done so (even though the next movie is still a year and a half away) seems to show WB do indeed want to keep them separate.

I'm not sure why that is, honestly. I'd love to see them all occur in the same universe. And logistically it's not that difficult by stating Arrow and Flash (or at least the first couple seasons of each) occurred before the events in Man of Steel, to explain why no mention of those world-shaping, historical events are mentioned so far. It's also not that difficult to oversee the chronologies of two TV shows and an annual movie release series. Marvel is doing it just fine, after all, and the job for script supervisors (which already work on the movies/shows), could certainly have an overall chronology fall under their purview.

Like I said, I'd like to see it happen, but given Berlanti's statements (I believe Guggenheim also stated as much--he works on Arrow doesn't he?) it doesn't appear to be the case, at least right now.
 
Two things, I just got the first season of Arrow a couple weeks ago, and I'll probably go back through it to get time markers/chapter titles (if there are any) for you to add to your timeline.
Also, I see you haven't included the blood rush mini series yet. I'm assuming that might just be due to the timeline being incomplete, seeing that you left off the most recent eps as well?
 
Geoff Johns said that Arrow and Man of Steel are "separate universes". Now, the way I see it is that they won't tie the TV shows into the movies or reference the events of the films. This allows creative freedom. Keep in mind that the writers for Arrow and Flash were given a list of characters they couldn't use. This could mean some of the characters they've used like China White or the Weather Wizard won't appear in the films due to their lesser significance in the DC Universe.

Everything is a subject to change eventually, at least from what I understand. I imagine if they wanted both shows in the DCCU eventually, Man of Steel would have to take place during the second half of 2017; after Arrow completes its five year run, and The Flash assuming its run is short-term. BUT this would also mean Clark Kent will have arrived on Earth in 1984 and was one busty 13 year old when his dad died.

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Keep in mind, these are big IFs, if DC ever reconsiders.
 
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selfishmisery said:
Geoff Johns said that Arrow and Man of Steel are "separate universes". Now, the way I see it is that they won't tie the TV shows into the movies or reference the events of the films. This allows creative freedom. Keep in mind that the writers for Arrow and Flash were given a list of characters they couldn't use. This could mean some of the characters they've used like China White or the Weather Wizard won't be used due to their lesser significance in the DC Universe. Everything is a subject to change eventually, at least from what I understand. I think they wanted both shows in the DCCU eventually, Man of Steel would have to take place during the second half of 2017; after Arrow completes its five year run, and The Flash assuming its run is short-term. BUT this would also mean Clark Kent will have arrived on Earth in 1984 and was one busty 13 year old when his dad died. Keep in mind, these are big IFs, if DC ever reconsiders.
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I doubt they will reconsider. I think it's safe to assume the Arrow/Flash TV universe will remain separate from the DC Film Universe started with Man of Steel.
 
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