Sony's Spider-Man Universe - Timeline

Well no details are given about Peter besides his disappearance
Considering he was born in 2003 and could've become Spider-Man at 15 like most of his versions he could've been superheroing for a year, done something that labeled him a murderer, escaped, and once he had his charges dropped via a similar way No Way Home did, he began to mutate at some point in his adulthood

If Kraven does indeed take place before Morbius, considering Rhino died in that film, iiiiii.... Suppose it could be a different Rhino? The comics have lots of mantle handlers, so it's not entirely out of the question

myusernameyes said:

Well no details are given about Peter besides his disappearance
Considering he was born in 2003 and could've become Spider-Man at 15 like most of his versions he could've been superheroing for a year, done something that labeled him a murderer, escaped, and once he had his charges dropped via a similar way No Way Home did, he began to mutate at some point in his adulthood

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What does that have to do with his age? Earth-120703's Peter was born in the 1990s. Also, no point in trying to connect the Earth-688 Peter with the Earth-120703 version, so throw out the mutation theory. That only applies if the SPUMC is Earth-688, not Earth-688B or Earth-120703.

myusernameyes said:

If Kraven does indeed take place before Morbius, considering Rhino died in that film, iiiiii.... Suppose it could be a different Rhino? The comics have lots of mantle handlers, so it's not entirely out of the question

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I don't think so. Also, it takes place after Morbius.

I mean I did misunderstand the question kinda

Pro Bot said:

Probably the placements if it were the same Earth-688.

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If you guys would prefer I consider there to be only one "Earth-688" rather than give it the Spider-Verse treatment, I'm totally willing to do that, but it's definitely an unintentional thing and Spider-Verse already has duplicate numbering. A lot of Spider-Verse realities are the same Earth though. I don't think What If...? #88 is intended to be canon to the SPUMC, lol. Especially considering the aforementioned Flash Thompson reference... although the symbiote would probably heal them anyway.

I mean, good and all, but given how shite the Sony films have been, I'm keeping my expectations EXTREMELY low here.

It's done by the Spider-Verse people, relax. It's probably gonna be good.

myusernameyes said:

Considering he was born in 2003 and could've become Spider-Man at 15 like most of his versions he could've been superheroing for a year, done something that labeled him a murderer, escaped, and once he had his charges dropped via a similar way No Way Home did, he began to mutate at some point in his adulthood

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Spider-Man (1994) S2, essentially. Except Peter turns back into a human and is still a good guy, just with an uncontrollable additional mutation... still, he accidentally killed his dog in the comic so fuck him, lol.

Pro Bot said:

It's done by the Spider-Verse people, relax. It's probably gonna be good.

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Look, I want to believe it'll be good, but I don't have a lot of faith in Sony. But hey, that's just me.

I still think Sony should give the rights back to Marvel, so we can have Spider-Man and his supporting cast/rogues gallery properly in the MCU, as opposed to Peter's stories being relegated to non-canon cel-shaded animated shows that don't even affect the Peter in the Sacred Timeline.

Pro Bot said:

It's done by the Spider-Verse people, relax. It's probably gonna be good.

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Yes, but... Muh 2-frames-per-second unique animation style waaaaaaah

JudgeDreddpool said:

Look, I want to believe it'll be good, but I don't have a lot of faith in Sony. But hey, that's just me.
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I still think Sony should give the rights back to Marvel, so we can have Spider-Man and his supporting cast/rogues gallery properly in the MCU, as opposed to Peter's stories being relegated to non-canon cel-shaded animated shows that don't even affect the Peter in the Sacred Timeline.

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Marvel would handle Spider-Man very badly if they did do it
They canceled Spectacular Spider-Man for a bunch of shitshows that absolutely nobody liked, so I don't see them try and return the character to his former glory

myusernameyes said:

They canceled Spectacular Spider-Man for a bunch of shitshows that absolutely nobody liked, so I don't see them try and return the character to his former glory

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shitshows that absolutely nobody liked

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absolutely nobody liked

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Ultimate Spider-Man was legitimately decent, overhated and I wanna remind you of this story of what Spectacular fans (as a MASS collective, not a vocal minority) did when Ultimate first aired.

I was there when it happened. So I'll put this in the nicest terms: [REDACTED]

And check your privilege.

selfishmisery said:

Ultimate Spider-Man was legitimately decent, overhated and I wanna remind you of this story of what Spectacular fans (as a MASS collective, not a vocal minority) did when Ultimate first aired.

The Boy Who Hated Ultimate Spider-Man

Ultimate Spider-Man is a successful show on Disney XD, with decent ratings, audience reaction and the kind of thing a broadcaster likes to hear. It was

bleedingcool.com

I was there when it happened. So I'll put this in the nicest terms: shove your sorry informed-opinion up deep 'til it hurts.

And check your privilege.

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I'm not trying to be rude, but you have no idea the kind of shit I and many Ultimate Spider-Man fans have dealt with for you to just say we're nothing.

Your ignorance in that regard literally infuriates me. Blocked.

Okay, no need to block, but I understand the frustration. Everyone's opinion is valid.

Alright, not blocking then.
But I'm making my point clear as day that "Duuuur nobody likes this show I don't like cause my worldview is the law of the universe" is a 4chan-tier argument.

Yeah, I respect the feelings about Spectacular being cancelled, but a lot of people were fans of Ultimate too. It does sting that your favourite show was replaced with something that you might personally consider inferior, but you can't generalise that worldview for everyone.
Teen Titans Go!, on the other hand...

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Yeah, I respect the feelings about Spectacular being cancelled, but a lot of people were fans of Ultimate too. It does sting that your favourite show was replaced with something that you might personally consider inferior, but you can't generalise that worldview for everyone.
Teen Titans Go!, on the other hand...

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I'll throw this out there: there was a very well-known Spectacular Spider-Man fan who cyber-stalked me with about a dozen alt accounts, making threats towards me, for simply defending Ultimate. Then he tried to throw my name through the mud.
That's not an exaggeration.

Jesus, some people are weirdos.

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Jesus, some people are weirdos.

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I couldn't watch Spectacular for years because of that guy and the people he rounded to his side. I digress.

selfishmisery said:

I'll throw this out there: there was a very well-known Spectacular Spider-Man fan who cyber-stalked me with about a dozen alt accounts, making threats towards me, for simply defending Ultimate. Then he tried to throw my name through the mud.
That's not an exaggeration.

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Jesus... that's messed up.

Went through Kraven one more time couldn't find any more timeline clues in the film but I sorted out the days of the film in both the flashback and the main events and the one year time jump at the end I'll post my rough estimates as to when each day starts and stops later but for now here is the overall length of time Kraven takes place over:

2005-2008 events take place over at least 6 days
(Dimitry's bday isn't mentioned during this period of time so I'm guessing that due to it being foggy and colder weather at the school that this happens before May but not too far away from it and Sergei says it's the middle of a school term so if it were still spring and depending on How long winter holidays last for in upstate New York before school returns, I'm guessing at least an Early to mid April timeframe)

2021-2024 events take place over 7 to 8 days
Looking at a May 1st or 2nd timeframe for when Sergei kills Churney as we really only have the May pole celebration on the tv in the background

So if we started on the night of May 1st we would end up with Nikolai dying to a bear on either the night of May 7th or May 8th

2022-2025 events takes place over 2 days
As it's Dimitry's bday one year later we can easily calculate that this happens on May 5/6th (I have to check my notes on which one) and then Sergei puts on the jacket on the morning of May 6/7th

As the foreigner has his notes about Kletus Cassidy, Eddie Brock and Ravencroft Institute close to his notes on the formula he stole from MI6 to subdue Sergei I don't think it's been 3 years since the events of Venom: LTBC so if we were to use the Earliest May after Venom: LTBC that would give us May 1st to May 7th/8th 2021 which also lines up with a internet article about when they discovered Churneys body in his cell (yesterday afternoon) and Calypso's mentor's funeral is taking place on the same day

which would also place her death earlier last week before the Saturday that Kraven killed Churney.

So that is my best guess as to when Kraven takes place.

Overall this is how I've ordered the SSU:

Spider-Noir S01 (1932/1933?)

(wiki says it's part of the SSU and since it Can't be part of the Spider-verse films as both Spider-Noirs have different names I'm placing it here)

Madame Web (June 2003)
Venom (Oct 2018, April 2019)
Venom Mid-Credits Scene (May 2019)

————— MCU Multiverse Opens up————-

Daily Bugle Morbius Tik Toks (Late March 2020)
Morbius (Late March 2020)

(Definitely feels like a March setting over June as filming as taking place during March 2019 and BTS Newspaper props support this as happening late March but this is contradicted with the I am Venom line and the San Fransisco incident mentioned so as march 2020 doesn't contradict any other background props and makes it after the first venom film I've decided to place it in March 2020 but only thing that is iffy is how long ago the San Francisco incident was but I can wave that away as not much happening at the FBI)

Venom: Let There Be Carnage (Oct-Nov 2020)
Venom: Let There Be Carnage Mid-Credits Scene (SSU = Early Nov 2020/MCU = Early Nov 2024)
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Spider-Man No Way Home (MCU = July 2024-Early Nov 2024,Dec 2024)
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Morbius Mid-Credits Scene (Early Nov 2020)
Venom: The Last Dance (MCU = Early Nov 2024/SSU = Early Nov 2020)
Venom: The Last Dance Mid-Credits Scene (Early Nov 2020)
Venom: The Last Dance Post-Credits Scene (Early Nov 2020)
Morbius Post-Credits Scene (Jan 2021)

(Morbius' watch has a Sat 23 date which the earliest those days and dates match up is January 2021, this also gives Toombes more than enough time to rebuild his vulture suit and research about this world and Morbius)

Kraven the Hunter (April 2005,May 1st - May 7/8th 2021,May 5/6th - May 6/7th 2022)