Spider-Man The Superior Spider-Man (Slott/Stegman/Delgado) SPOILERS
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Zombipanda
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So the reveal that
strikes me as a pretty cheap verve. This whole issue actually struck me as a bit weak, and that's coming from someone who likes SSM.
I'm wondering if Slott was pressured into wrapping up this arc earlier than he intended.
Pete's consciousness has just been hiding in Spock's head since the time he tried to erase him
I'm wondering if Slott was pressured into wrapping up this arc earlier than he intended.
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No, Doc Ock was successful at wiping Peter's personality from his brain, but then he accessed Peter's memories to figure out who Spider-Man 2099 was and Peter re-emerged. Slott subtly set that up months ago.
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Cheap and stupid.
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I'm going to go on record now and predict that Goblin King/Green Goblin is actually Gabriel Stacy.
EDIT: full disclosure... I actually think it's Normie from the future (or the son of Harry and Lilly/Menace) based on his reaction to Hobgoblin's crack about Harry being a disappointment. But since that seems like a stretch, I'm going with the only goblin that hasn't been mentioned or recruited.
EDIT AGAIN: then again... Doc Ock overwrote his personality onto Peter's mind and has been living Peter/Spidey's life for the past year. So maybe far-fetched shouldn't be a concern.
EDIT: full disclosure... I actually think it's Normie from the future (or the son of Harry and Lilly/Menace) based on his reaction to Hobgoblin's crack about Harry being a disappointment. But since that seems like a stretch, I'm going with the only goblin that hasn't been mentioned or recruited.
EDIT AGAIN: then again... Doc Ock overwrote his personality onto Peter's mind and has been living Peter/Spidey's life for the past year. So maybe far-fetched shouldn't be a concern.
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So I'm actually really enjoying this. I love Goblin stuff and this is the ultimate. I kind of hope it IS Norman underneath the mask, but I really doubt that it is at this point. Also, MJ is awesome. I'm actually really concerned about what's going to happen to Peter's mind. That part in particular has the potential to frustrate me with its outcome, but I'll just enjoy it for now.
I'm guessing we're going to get a recreation of Gwen's death with Anna Maria...
I'm guessing we're going to get a recreation of Gwen's death with Anna Maria...
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I haven't paid much attention to what people are saying about this...is it expected that he will have lost many or most of his memories?
I'm kind of amused at the amount of mid-wiping that has happened in Spider-Man books the last few years.
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Zombipanda
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I suspect you're going to get that Pete/MJ reunion a the end of SSM, cap.
My bets are she's the first face Pete sees when he regains control of his mind, and she nurses him back to health, filling in the blank spots in his memory.
My bets are she's the first face Pete sees when he regains control of his mind, and she nurses him back to health, filling in the blank spots in his memory.
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Really? What makes you think that? I want to believe you, but I just don't know if my heart can take any more disappointment.
Zombipanda
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Just the pacing of the story, the nature of comic book narratives and the developments in the last issue. MJ is positioning herself as the secret weapon in the big climactic battle and this story needs a hero. It's clearly not Ock, who's falling to pieces. I think Slott's made it pretty clear that he sees MJ and Pete as the match after deconstructing the trope a bit over the past few years, and the story's running to a head where MJ will be the ace in the hole in the climactic battle. MJ will save Pete, Doc will get his moment of sacrificial heroism as he gives up himself to save Anna-Marie (is that her name?) and Pete will be back. My guess is he learns a few things from Otto's tenure, but ultimately things revert back to the status quo. He hands the reins of the company back to Sajani (is that her name?), realizing that he has enough responsibilities as is and isn't cut out for the CEO gig, and convalesces under MJ's care. Carlie gets better. Whatsername, Ghost Cop, reverts to being Parker's tentative ally on the force and a brief triangle forms between Pete, MJ, and her fireman boyfriend, but it's clear that their relationship is mending. My guess is Carlie forgets everything she learned as part of the reversion and MJ, as the sole remaining person remembering his identity becomes an integral and major part of the narrative, but it's possible Carlie still remembers.
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Sounds good. I hope you're right.
Ock's girlfriend is Anna-Maria. I think Sajani is right. And Ghost Cop is Yuri Wantanabe - she calls herself Wraith... But she SHOULD have gone with Ghost Cop.
Ock's girlfriend is Anna-Maria. I think Sajani is right. And Ghost Cop is Yuri Wantanabe - she calls herself Wraith... But she SHOULD have gone with Ghost Cop.
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Zombipanda
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Y'all need to stop your bellyachin'.
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I've never been a fan of Superior Spider-Man. I refused to even read it until I found out it was ending. But it's not THAT bad. I mean, it's not bad b/c the current story is bad - beyond the basic premise of Ock being in Peter's body.
That said, I didn't enjoy #29. It was sort of all over the place. But I guess it was setting everything up for the final conclusion.
That said, I didn't enjoy #29. It was sort of all over the place. But I guess it was setting everything up for the final conclusion.
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Zombipanda
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I look at it like that story where the Punisher is turned into a Frankenstein. It might not be the story everyone wants to read, but that doesn't mean it's not a well told story.
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So, I just read the annual. The second part of the story was useless, but I guess needed to be told somewhere.
The first part was a cool story though and the art was fantastic! The colours were so vibrant!
AND I also just read issue #30. All I can say is, YAAAAAAAAAAAY!
EDIT: oh, and I guess we're supposed to believe that Liz Allen is really the Goblin, buuuut I'm going back to my original thought that it's really Normie from the future/the MC2 reality (before he becomes good or maybe an alternate MC2) and that Alchemax is going to be responsible for Spider-verse.
The first part was a cool story though and the art was fantastic! The colours were so vibrant!
AND I also just read issue #30. All I can say is, YAAAAAAAAAAAY!
EDIT: oh, and I guess we're supposed to believe that Liz Allen is really the Goblin, buuuut I'm going back to my original thought that it's really Normie from the future/the MC2 reality (before he becomes good or maybe an alternate MC2) and that Alchemax is going to be responsible for Spider-verse.
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So I liked it. I laughed out loud when Spidey made the quip about the man purse and Goblin immediately knew Peter was back. Also, the part where Peter explains what happened to Spidey 2099 and his response is, "Yeah, that sounds just stupid enough to be right."
It was also kind of cool to see the continuation of Normie's story. I remember reading some of the Harry Goblin stories from the 90s and seeing how messed up Normie was by the whole thing and being really affected by that. I'm glad they've brought him back. I don't know how I feel about plastic surgery Norman though. I guess it makes sense...
One thing I was a bit confused on was the way Peter proved to Carlie that he was back. He told her something that happened when he was in Ock's body. Right after that, he died and went to Spidey heaven, but Uncle Ben sent him back, at which point his consciousness returned to his own body to "haunt" Ock. Is that right? That part is all confusing.
It was also kind of cool to see the continuation of Normie's story. I remember reading some of the Harry Goblin stories from the 90s and seeing how messed up Normie was by the whole thing and being really affected by that. I'm glad they've brought him back. I don't know how I feel about plastic surgery Norman though. I guess it makes sense...
One thing I was a bit confused on was the way Peter proved to Carlie that he was back. He told her something that happened when he was in Ock's body. Right after that, he died and went to Spidey heaven, but Uncle Ben sent him back, at which point his consciousness returned to his own body to "haunt" Ock. Is that right? That part is all confusing.
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hahaha, THAT IS AWESOME!
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So apparently there are going to be two more issues of this that will tie back into a "dangling plot thread" from issue #19 (where he's trying to stop the time bomb thing from going off and it does sort of go off, and he disappears somewhere, but he saves the city and comes back, but isn't sure where he went). And it will show Superior Spider-Man stuck in 2099 and will tie into Spider-verse.
Zombipanda
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There's a rumor that Superior Spider-Man will relaunch in the nearish future (possibly with Fraction as a writer) with the "SpOck in 2099" premise.
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Huh, and with Spidey 2099 in present day.
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