ProjectX2
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Which one do you like more?
Exactly this.Dark Knight definitely and without a doubt.
What happens off-screen?
I thought you meant "key scenes happen off-screen" not "I don't care for his choice of camera angles and editing".
Batman begins > the dark knight
I kind of agree.
yup.Agreed.
this is absolutely true.BEGINS ... was confusing when Batman was fighting
Batman begins > the dark knight
I know you didn't claim that, that's why I said "I thought you meant...". I misunderstood.
As for addressing that stuff - The film makes sense. Those edits and choices didn't cause it to be confusing. Even you don't think it's confusing because your criticism of them shows complete comprehension of what happened.
The visual style of TDK is identical to BEGINS, and perhaps even less choppy than BEGINS which had so many people saying it was confusing when Batman was fighting that Nolan had to explain his directorial choices. The criticism is weak sauce.
Batman begins > the dark knight
I kind of agree.
Agreed.
yup.
The universe does not contain the words to express how wrong you all are.
So very wrong.
It boggles the mind.
I don't know if I would say that Begins is better, but I do prefer it to TDK for a lot of reasons. Begins felt like it was told from Bruce Wayne and Jim Gordon's POVs, while TDK felt like it was told from The Joker and the Gotham PD's POVs.Batman begins > the dark knight
:lol:Your reasoning has persuaded me.
The Nolan Batman series was shaping up to be the quintessential telling of Batman's first years on screen. After this, even if Nolan moved on, they could use these stories as a basis on which to base future movies. Hooray, no reboot!! But then they decided to kill Two-Face, which leaves the Batman film franchise in an awkward position. Now, you have three options. 1. Continue the Batman film franchise as is without one of Batman's top three most important villains, Two-Face. 2. Ignore the killing of Two-Face and use him anyway, thus confusing the mainstream audience. 3. Reboot. All of this is even worse because they didn't even have to kill Two-Face. Have Dent turning Two-Face be the metaphorical death of Dent, leaving all of the meaning of the Dent plot line intact.
Maggie Gyllenhaal looks like Droopy, the cartoon dog.
1. There are major scenes that just feel like they are there for action, not necessarily to advance the plot all that much. The scene in Hong Kong comes to mind, as does the scene with Mr. Reese on that Talk Show. On the topic of Mr. Reese, he is just not needed at all...unless they are doing something with him in the next reason.
3. The Nolan Batman series was shaping up to be the quintessential telling of Batman's first years on screen. After this, even if Nolan moved on, they could use these stories as a basis on which to base future movies. Hooray, no reboot!! But then they decided to kill Two-Face, which leaves the Batman film franchise in an awkward position. Now, you have three options. 1. Continue the Batman film franchise as is without one of Batman's top three most important villains, Two-Face. 2. Ignore the killing of Two-Face and use him anyway, thus confusing the mainstream audience. 3. Reboot. All of this is even worse because they didn't even have to kill Two-Face. Have Dent turning Two-Face be the metaphorical death of Dent, leaving all of the meaning of the Dent plot line intact.
4. Maggie Gyllenhaal looks like Droopy, the cartoon dog.
I don't understand why people prefer Katie Holmes.
Batman begins > the dark knight