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    Re: The End of the Ultimate Universe

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    Yeah, it will probably be something like this. But even then I don't really want it to be prominent. It be like advertising a forum for New Universe.There's no point in keeping it but it seems like a waste to get rid of it.
    A subforum under the general Marvel discussion would work, no? Essentially could just "cut and paste" the Ultimate section into its own subsection... or is that too prominent still?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    A subforum under the general Marvel discussion would work, no? Essentially could just "cut and paste" the Ultimate section into its own subsection... or is that too prominent still?
    Yeah, that pretty much seems to be the only option.
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    So no shooting it into space? Someone mentioned that idea and I think it's a great idea. We should look into that.
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    My vote is to print off every single page and store it all on acid free paper, kept in a limestone cavern 5 miles underground, guarded round the clock by armed mercenaries and their trained, killer, attack wombats.
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    Re: The End of the Ultimate Universe

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattimeo84 View Post
    My vote is to print off every single page and store it all on acid free paper and kept in a limestone cavern 5 miles underground guarded round the clock by armed mercenaries and their trained, killer, attack wombats.
    yeah but attack wombats are so expensive in today's economy.
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    yeah but attack wombats are so expensive in today's economy.
    I can settle for disgruntled pigmy shrews.
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    So, not only is Miles going to be in the Avengers but will be in his own book named "Spider-man" by Bendis and Pichelli. Hopefully Ganke is still around. He's one of the best characters to come out of the now deceased Ultimate Comics Spider-man title.

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    I wonder if they plan on bringing over any other elements like Ganke or his dad or anything like that. I don't think it works if you just drop Miles into 616 without his supporting cast. I just think back to the supporting cast Ben Reilly had during the Clone Saga - it sucked.
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    I wonder if they plan on bringing over any other elements like Ganke or his dad or anything like that. I don't think it works if you just drop Miles into 616 without his supporting cast. I just think back to the supporting cast Ben Reilly had during the Clone Saga - it sucked.
    I'm wondering how they're going to transplant his origin into the 616 universe (or whatever the new one is called, post Secret Wars). He's very Ultimate. The end of Spider-Men suggested that there was a Miles Morales already in the 616, so maybe we're going to get THAT Miles, with his origin and supporting cast similar but different.
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    Marvel did say other people from the Ultimate Universe would survive. So maybe (hopefully) some of Miles' supporting cast is part of the survivors.
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    I'm sure Ganke and most of Miles' supporting cast will survive. Ultimate Peter Parker and his supporting cast (Ultimate Aunt May, MJ, Gwen, etc) will all likely cease to exist at the end of Ultimate End & Secret Wars, so as not to cause confusion with the 616 versions of those characters.

    In fact, I'm sure 99% of the Ultimate versions of the characters will cease to exist after Secret Wars. No more Ultimate versions of Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, Jean Grey, Invisible Woman, Thing, Human Torch, etc.

    I do hope Ultimate Reed sticks around, as he's literally the most interesting character (other than Miles) to come out of the Ultimate universe in the past 7 years or so. I loved the twist of making him a self-righteous villain character with a massive God complex and the abilities and intelligence to pretty much back it up.

    Him staying a permanent part of the 616 universe and retaining the moniker The Maker and serving as a recurring Avengers/Fantastic Four villain would be interesting.
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    Re: The End of the Ultimate Universe

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    I'm sure Ganke and most of Miles' supporting cast will survive. Ultimate Peter Parker and his supporting cast (Ultimate Aunt May, MJ, Gwen, etc) will all likely cease to exist at the end of Ultimate End & Secret Wars, so as not to cause confusion with the 616 versions of those characters.

    In fact, I'm sure 99% of the Ultimate versions of the characters will cease to exist after Secret Wars. No more Ultimate versions of Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, Jean Grey, Invisible Woman, Thing, Human Torch, etc.

    I do hope Ultimate Reed sticks around, as he's literally the most interesting character (other than Miles) to come out of the Ultimate universe in the past 7 years or so. I loved the twist of making him a self-righteous villain character with a massive God complex and the abilities and intelligence to pretty much back it up.

    Him staying a permanent part of the 616 universe and retaining the moniker The Maker and serving as a recurring Avengers/Fantastic Four villain would be interesting.
    Yeah, I'm sure that Ganke and Miles' dad and maybe even the school Miles goes to and a character like Bombshell might survive. But Ultimate Kate Bishop can't, so that story has to change or be erased. Uncle Aaron was Ultimate Prowler, so that needs to be explained or changed. Miles got bit by a genetically altered spider from Oscorp, which doesn't fit in with the 616 universe. Also, Miles' mom died during an attack by a venom, but an ultimate version of venom, cooked up by Roxxon, not an alien symbiote. So all of that stuff, which has been fairly significant to Miles' story needs to be explored/ignored.

    And Bendis said that the first arc of Spider-Man will serve as a sequel to Spider-Men, at the end of which Peter looks up Miles Morales on the internet and finds out something shocking. So I just wonder what they're going to do with all that.
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    Re: The End of the Ultimate Universe

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    Yeah, I'm sure that Ganke and Miles' dad and maybe even the school Miles goes to and a character like Bombshell might survive. But Ultimate Kate Bishop can't, so that story has to change or be erased. Uncle Aaron was Ultimate Prowler, so that needs to be explained or changed. Miles got bit by a genetically altered spider from Oscorp, which doesn't fit in with the 616 universe. Also, Miles' mom died during an attack by a venom, but an ultimate version of venom, cooked up by Roxxon, not an alien symbiote. So all of that stuff, which has been fairly significant to Miles' story needs to be explored/ignored.
    Well, it doesn't really need to be explored or ignored. It just needs to be explained that he and his supporting cast originated from the Ultimate verse and now live in the 616 reality.

    It would actually offer a chance for Miles to deal with the fact that he very likely can no longer even visit his mother's grave (since the universe it existed in no longer exists)... even weirder, perhaps the 616 version of Miles' mother is still alive?

    There's a lot of interesting stuff they can explore with it. I think a running theme or element of "alternate reality" differences a la Back to the Future 2 (minus the time travel), with the jarring differences for Miles, can work really well both in terms of exploring the character and the new reality he resides in.

    And Bendis said that the first arc of Spider-Man will serve as a sequel to Spider-Men, at the end of which Peter looks up Miles Morales on the internet and finds out something shocking. So I just wonder what they're going to do with all that.
    Perhaps 616 Miles is a delinquent/criminal? Maybe he's dead? Maybe he got bit by a spider and developed some form of cancer?

    Hopefully Bendis makes it interesting and doesn't resort to cheap shock factor stuff.

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    Well, it doesn't really need to be explored or ignored. It just needs to be explained that he and his supporting cast originated from the Ultimate verse and now live in the 616 reality.

    It would actually offer a chance for Miles to deal with the fact that he very likely can no longer even visit his mother's grave (since the universe it existed in no longer exists)... even weirder, perhaps the 616 version of Miles' mother is still alive?

    There's a lot of interesting stuff they can explore with it. I think a running theme or element of "alternate reality" differences a la Back to the Future 2 (minus the time travel), with the jarring differences for Miles, can work really well both in terms of exploring the character and the new reality he resides in.
    Huh, I didn't even consider that he might know that he's from a different reality. I figured they would just fold him into the retconned history of the 616 kind of like DC did with the JSA after Crisis on Infinite Earths.


    Perhaps 616 Miles is a delinquent/criminal? Maybe he's dead? Maybe he got bit by a spider and developed some form of cancer?

    Hopefully Bendis makes it interesting and doesn't resort to cheap shock factor stuff.
    If Bendis does keep Miles as being from the Ultimate universe, then a 616 villain Miles would be cool. Or if Miles and his father died and left his mom alive. That would be all kinds of confusing for them and would be interesting to explore.
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    Now I have to try and remember what happened in Spider-Men. All I remember is that it was lame.
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