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    Or: How Galactus doesn't look to be coming back to 616.

    From Marvel's Ultimate Comics Panel at SDCC:


    Loew then exclusively announced: “Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand,” from Bendis and Mark Bagley, a Galactus-centric story where the heroes of the Ultimate Universe not only will discover there’s a Marvel Universe but realize they can’t send Galactus back there as if they do he will just destroy that world.

    "He's going to earth and eating it, Bendis said with a laugh. "It breaks open the barrier of the Universe to the Marvel Universe."
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    Re: Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

    Ugh...
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    Re: Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

    According to teases by the panel, this could end the Ultimate Universe...
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    Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

    What a failure the ultimate universe turned out to be. How sad.
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    Re: Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

    It wasn't a failure, it brought us all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate Houde View Post
    It wasn't a failure, it brought us all together.
    That could be viewed as a failure.


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    Re: Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

    My Ultimate Universe ended with Ultimates 2.
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    Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

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    That could be viewed as a failure.

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    Re: Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

    Seriously, why do they have to destroy the ultimate universe??? Just cancel all the books besides Ultimate Spider-Man.

    Why is that difficult?
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    Re: Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

    I said it during the liveblog and I'll say it here. This doesn't sound like the end to me, this sounds like a new beginning.
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    Re: Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

    I've said it before and I'll say it again.

    The Ultimate Universe should have been a limited run imprint (say ten years), with a middle and end roughly sketched out from the start. They had a bunch of interesting ideas in place, regarding the real world implications of superheroes as the 21st century's WMD's and the implications the ensuing arms race would have on the world. Unfortunately, those were mostly pushed to the side as the books lost their perspective and spun out of focus.

    Hell, I'd be happy to see that limited run then a reboot model applied to the mainstream DC and Marvel universes.
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    Re: Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

    Quote Originally Posted by Zombipanda View Post
    I've said it before and I'll say it again.

    The Ultimate Universe should have been a limited run imprint (say ten years), with a middle and end roughly sketched out from the start. They had a bunch of interesting ideas in place, regarding the real world implications of superheroes as the 21st century's WMD's and the implications the ensuing arms race would have on the world. Unfortunately, those were mostly pushed to the side as the books lost their perspective and spun out of focus.

    Hell, I'd be happy to see that limited run then a reboot model applied to the mainstream DC and Marvel universes.
    Agreed.

    I was always disappointed - even when the books were good - that the universe wasn't tighter so those real-world implications actually were "real world". I seem to remember some disagreements around here about whether the Ultimate line was supposed to be more "real world" but I always thought it clearly was. At least at first.

    I think things started to turn a little too 616 when they started bringing in 3rd and 4th tier writers on Ultimate Fantastic Four and Ultimate X-Men. The cosmic stuff that was going on in UFF was bad; getting away from that real-world realism (even in dealing with events and characters like Ultimate Galactus and the Chitauri) hastened the lower quality of the books as a whole. And of course it all came to a head with Ultimatum. But the downward spiral started much earlier than that.

    Galactus staying in the UU is, of course, a ridiculous notion. Why even bother suggesting or hinting at that? Stop trying to shock readers with dumb ideas that we know will either never happen or be overturned. Just tell good stories.

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    Re: Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

    Quote Originally Posted by wyokid View Post
    I said it during the liveblog and I'll say it here. This doesn't sound like the end to me, this sounds like a new beginning.
    Yeah, but how many "new beginnings" is this line going to have? It's had two already, and neither has stuck, with the only reliably consistent book being Spidey. I seriously doubt that the third rebirth will be the charm.

    I'm with Cap. Kill everything but Spidey. Just get it done with.

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    Re: Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

    SDCC: WILL BENDIS & BAGLEY'S "CATACLYSM" END THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE?

    Editor Mark Paniccia spoke with CBR about the possibility that the just-announced "Ultimate Cataclysm" will serve as an end to the Ultimate U at the hands of originators Brian Bendis and Mark Bagley.
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    Re: Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand (Bendis/Bagley)

    It's happening. I hate stupid crap like this.
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