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    Perfect. Now they won't have to "spoil" Avengers 4.

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    Alright guys, so, I emailed the guy who wrote that Marvel 101 book to ask about the Iron Man 3 timeline that he put at the top of the page (I just like to be thorough. And I wasn't exactly how much communication DK Publishing had with Marvel.) BUT, he responded today and the answer is pretty interesting.

    "Thanks for your email. That is a great question!

    To answer your first question, yes, Marvel Studios reviews and approves DK’s books several times before they are printed, so the books are as official as it gets.

    Interestingly enough though, I didn’t actually write the little statement in the intro for Iron Man 3 that says most of the story takes place in 2012. That was added by the publisher and approved by Marvel Studios after I finished writing everything. So, I don’t actually know the reasons behind it myself. It does seem like a long time span for the movie to cover.

    I’m glad you enjoyed the book. Later this year DK will be publishing my next Marvel Studios book, the "Marvel Studios Visual Dictionary," which may also interest you.

    Kind Regards,

    Adam Bray"

    So, I concede, as much as believe there to be evidence to the contrary, clearly Marvel wanted that included, thus that was their intent. As of now I agree that Iron Man 3 takes place in 2012.

    (SPOILER! Until Harley Keener shows up next year and tells us it happened in 2013 hahaah

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    Has anyone seen the Wakanda tourism ads on the Black Panther extras? Any word on if they're canon?

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    A lot to reply to. This will look long but it's mainly just quoting what my responses are to.

    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    THANK YOU!

    Dude, the level of detail in the research you do is incredible. It makes me look like an amateur. DE23111’s detailed research (even if I disagree with his IM3 conclusions) is also insanely detailed. The community as a whole is why this timeline is as detailed and pored over as it is. It would be riddled with mistakes without you guys and the input and corrections and suggestions and reasoning and details caught that I miss are invaluable.
    Thank you! I’m pretty passionate about the timeline, hope to help wherever I can.

    Quote Originally Posted by selfishmisery View Post
    SPOILER! No one disappeared in tonight's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
    So does that confirm that Infinity War takes place over two days now?
    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    While it’s pretty obvious now, AoS show runner confirms the last four episodes parallel IW fully, covering the 24 hour period or so of the film, more or less, and confirming our theory.
    http://tvline.com/2018/05/11/agents-...or-save-world/

    Nope, just one day, see link at beginning of my novel length post.
    Jed Whedon confirms the final four episodes cover around a 24 hour period paralleling Infinity War. You should see people start disappearing at end of next week’s season finale... presumably. I mean they sort of have to. They went out of their way to mention Thanos and events of attack on New York, and while I haven’t watched last night’s episode yet, the preview for it from end of last week’s episode indicated this episode picked up soon after previous one, likely in morning or midday Eastern time (I think Talbot’s family lives in Virginia but could be wrong), before Thanos’ army arrives and the battle in Wakanda begins. Probably around same time, or soon after, the Avengers HQ scene with Rhodes and Ross. And presumably next week’s final episode will parallel that battle in Wakanda and the battle between Thanos and various characters on Titan, and end with some of the agents turning dust.
    Quote Originally Posted by DE23111 View Post
    Watching the episode I noticed SPOILER! When Talbot visits the hospital the time is 23:34 or something like that, I know the hour is right, but I'm not sure about the minute value. But when Talbot visits his son, it is daylight out, but more than likely very early morning given that is his first seen stop after the hospital, so if we rounded that to a good six or seven AM taking into account that sunrise you mentioned, that still gives the finale (Which I'm sure will pick up immediately after this episode) about three or four hours to do the deed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    I totally agree the movie works better as just one day. Just throwing up no-prizes.

    This is all correct except you’re forgetting that the episode ends around dusk. It honestly doesn’t make any sense being that late, so maybe we can chalk it up to an errant establishing shot.
    I’m wondering if this could all be fixed by just assuming Candyman was talking about something else in episode 19. That would just mean the Confederacy somehow knew Thanos was coming even before he attacked Asgard.
    Quote Originally Posted by DE23111 View Post
    I think the shot I attached is the one you are referring to, and if that it is the case it looks to me to be more dawn than dusk. And if they arrive at dawn, I know what you're thinking, the sun was already up for Mack and Yo Yo, how could it be dawn? Thanks for asking, me. Probably because SPOILER! Thematically they wanted there not to be a bridge between Coulson fainting and the cliffhanger ending So, honestly it's probably just a bit out of order for pacing purposes I would look at it as SPOILER! Mack and YoYo leave to get Talbot--Deke and May make it back (Mack YoYo not shown)--Daisy and Coulson land (I assume they pass him off to FitSimmons to stabilize him and run tests--May comes in to check on him--Simultaneously to the tests being performed Mack and YoYo have their encounter with Talbot around 6 or 7ish (Totally spotted Virginia license plates in that scene, so good call whoever said that's where the Talbot's live)--(This is complete assumption) Some one picks up Mack and YoYo from Virginia (due to the fact that their vehicles are destroyed and Davis has the plane--When those two return to base everyone has the discussion on what to do about Coulson and Talbot
    That's just what I'm thinkin'. Plus,I'm not entirely sure what else the Candyman would be talking about. He references aliens in New York..that just feels really...specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    This could work. I’ll have to rewatch and see.
    I have to disagree about the dusk/dawn thing though. Definitely looks like PM, color wise. Plus the little bit of sun showing itself is on the right. The lighthouse is in NY and the ocean/East is on the left. Therefore the sun is setting.
    Quote Originally Posted by DE23111 View Post
    Then I don't know, but I just can't wrap my head around them being on that ship for a full day. We'll just have to wait for next week, which seems to have day time footage, so if it's dusk, they're waiting like 12 hours to act. Which is odd. But I'm sure there will be a big ol' SPOILER! SNAP next episode and then we can date it backwards. Which is always easier.
    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    Damn, got me. River’s End is in NY, but I never realized it was on Lake Ontario (always thought it was closer to NYC, I guess from Noah saying “an Asgardian in the city”.) So from that still, the sun either would come up on the right or straight in front of the camera. So the “pacing purposes” theory might still hold up.
    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    Yup, was just about to mention that. I'm still watching episode, but at the 17:15 mark the security camera footage shows it as 23:24:06:19, so 11:24 PM, which corresponds to the fact no outdoor shots are utilized in the episode so far until that point (just interiors on the space ship, bus, Lighthouse, and hospital so far), so that checks out and works. I'll see if there's anything of note later in the episode.
    And your reasoning is sound. Hopefully it all ends up working out without a hitch.

    Yeah, like I said I think Jed basically indirectly admitted they fudged up the timeline some in that quote confirming it occurs over a 24 hour period. I just think they screwed up the day/night cycle/time of day in regards to that ending dusk shot you mentioned and the time zone factor in relation to the apparent time of day in Wakanda. Thats likely just an unfortunate side effect of aligning the TV show with the film's events, which is hard to pin down since the film is still in editing process and having final touches put on it at the time these episodes were likely written/filmed (probably 3 months back or so, maybe sooner, not sure of the production schedule but the specifics aren't important anyway). That disconnect between the films and TV side is largely inevitable and necessary due to the fact the films change during production, right up to late production, reshoots, and edits, which can sometimes drastically alter a film (Ron Howard reshooting 70% of Solo is a good example), or even in a minor way in terms of how it affects the finished product. The number of days that pass in IW could've been altered from 2 to around 1 in editing process, if perhaps it was originally intended as 2 in original script (perhaps Russos wanted to tighten the timeline up to instill a more apparent sense of urgency?). And the AoS writers may have been going off the shooting script, and not been informed of the change in the editing process. The number of moving parts on all the different productions going on at any one time in the MCU is massive at this point, so mistakes and disconnect and lack of perfect symmetry is to be expected.
    Its kind of why I hope Marvel Studios hires a team similar to Lucasfilm's Story Group who keep continuity all in check, but also all the various working parts to ensure plot synergy and merchandising/advertising aspects. And don't forget, the MCU is significantly larger than the rebooted SW universe, so there's more ground to cover and keep track of. Who can monitor all the various productions and ensure they all fit into the puzzle correctly.
    We'll see if we can't come up with a workable solution, and if not then we can perhaps chalk it up to timeline shenanigans of the Time Stone... though that would mean the Titan battle when Thanos finally obtains it would have to occur beforehand... which I don't think works either.
    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    So, having watched Agents of SHIELD 5x21, there doesn't seem to be any timeline problems.
    First, this is the shot mentioned that had us thinking the show may have screwed up the timeline in relation to aligning with Infinity War.
    Link: https://imgur.com/a/otztXzF
    It was assumed this was dusk, but it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be. I propose to keep the timeline aligned (assuming no outdoor shots at night are utilized at that specific location in 5x22), that shot be viewed as very early morning, just as the sun is rising, and the scenes at Talbot's house occur within a half hour or so before, just after sunrise (even though the timing based on lighting seems later in morning, like 9-11am if I had to guess).

    Link: https://imgur.com/a/uJuCiee
    We can assume the base on Lake Ontario is at the western most point of Lake Ontario to still be within US border. If we figure the Lighthouse is somewhere in the black dot area on above map, and Talbot's residence somewhere in the red dot area in Virginia, and the blue line is the east to west distance, even though its in the same time zone, there is a possibility that east to west distance could be used to explain the difference in lighting for around same time of day. Perhaps when Talbot arrived at his house, his wife was in process of getting breakfast ready for their son offscreen? And unless it occurs on a weekend, he likely had to go to school that day since its still during school year. So, there's a certain logic to setting it in very early morning that can be used to explain the discrepancy.
    Given we can't see the sun, and given the water seen is Lake Ontario, NOT the Atlantic Ocean, we have no way of knowing the exact direction that establishing shot is facing, other than north or northwest or west. And given the sun rises in the east, it would be rising likely behind where the camera is shooting from, or outside of shot to the right side of shot if facing north (which the shot backs up since the right side seems lighter than left). The moon in the sky could also be indicative of early morning as sun is just coming up as that happens all the time (it could be setting too, equally as likely in that moon scenario).
    Its a bit of a stretch given the series of events in the show's latter portion would have to occur in a very small amount of time (say 10-15 minutes total), from scene where Yoyo and Mack discuss Talbot's motivations and likely that he was heading to his house (which occurs just before Talbot arrives at his house) to at least that establishing shot, but that's entirely possible.
    Quote Originally Posted by iammattie View Post
    Looks like next episode still occurs early I. The day, so the dusk situation at the lighthouse is moot

    https://youtu.be/BgHRl8xPnSE
    I definitely think it should be dawn, not dusk. It just doesn't make much sense for it to be dusk, for both the film and the episode's time spans. It would stretch the Infinity War events, which would be very difficult, stretch the episode's events, which would be weird, stretch the next episode's daytime events into the next day, which would probably not work very well, and with Whedon saying how Episodes 19-22 take place over about 24 hours, again, it only makes sense for it to be dawn. Plus I feel like the Moon would only be still visible at dawn, not already visible at dusk.

    Also, as DIrishB was saying about if it's a school day - it is. When Tony's in the sanctum, the flip-phone says it's Wednesday, so this is Thursday morning. So that works as well.

    It's a bit tricky but it can be fudged a little bit. The Virginia number plates was a great spot. If it's more east Virginia, it's not impossible.

    On Thursday, January 11th (the approximate date of the events):
    •07:18 - Sunrise in east Virginia (using Norfolk, Virginia).
    •07:41 - Sunrise at Lake Ontario, New York (using Rochester, New York).

    So if the Talbot events are maybe 07:23-26ish. Then it would be about 441.757 miles, via the Quinjet would be 441.757/1611.27 = 00:16, plus a few more minutes to get up to top speed and slow down, so 00:20 maybe, they could be arriving by 07:46-47ish.

    I like the Lucasfilm Story Group idea. Kevin Feige talked about that a bit here, with Marvel's new "Parliament", but that's more just the film division.

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    There might be a slight problem with the 24-hours thing. Last night took place during the day (day after Maw and Cull in NY) but then there’s an establishing shot of a quintet getting to the lighthouse and the sun is setting. You can ignore it, but it’s already conflicting with the clock in Fury’s car, so maybe it’s best to split up IW like this:

    Day 1: Maw and Cull attack Dr. Strange
    Night 1: (AOS 5x19-20) Cap rescues Vision. Everyone flies back to their secret base, presumably in Lebanon and gets some sleep.
    Day 2: (AOS 5x21) Fly to Avengers HQ.
    Night 2: Fly to Wakanda, get there in morning.
    Day 3: (AOS 5x22) The snap.

    This more or less works if you pad the time every one was traveling (to Titan, Nidavellir, Knowhere). And sorry if this is just a less detailed breakdown of what Agamotto posted the other day. It’s a supreme pain in the ass trying to read spoiler tags on my phone.
    Didn't realise the spoiler tags caused problems. That was one option I explored, but...:

    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    Only problem with this approach is it creates a rather large plot hole.
    Remember, in the film, when Cap, Widow, and the others save Vision and Wanda, they know they’re after Vision’s Infinity Stone, and are obviously in a hurry to get to Avengers HQ to get Vision to a more secured position. They even establish on the Quinjet immediately after they rescue Vision and Wanda that they’re heading to the HQ. There’s no logical reason for them to stop and rest and increase odds of Thanos getting the Stone. Same with Wakanda. Again, it’s a race against time, and it would run counter to the character motivations and overall plot to assume.
    It also creates potential issues with the flow of the other plotlines, but since they’re off planet it’s impossible to discern a specific time span outside of how it corresponds to the other scenes set on Earth.
    All that said your suggestion may end up being best approach. I’ll let the last episode air and that way I can better map out those last four episodes against the film.
    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    I totally agree the movie works better as just one day. Just throwing up no-prizes.
    But like Hitchcock said, movies are just like life but without the boring parts. Maybe Cap left the stove on in Lebanon, Tony/Peter/Strange had a sleepover on the Q-ship, the Guardians combed over Knowhere looking for clues and Rocket made a wrong turn in Shi’ar Space and added a day to Thor’s quest.
    We also have no idea how long Thanos was unconscious after acquiring the Soul Stone. Which would just mean everyone waited around a long time ready to spring the ambush on Titan.
    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    No doubt, but remember Occam's razor ("In a case of two competing explanations for an occurrence, the simpler one is usually better and the more likely. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation is.").
    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    Therefore I'd say AoS 5x21's entire episode occurs after the Scotland battle but before Cap, Widow, and the others arrive at Avengers HQ in the film.
    I discussed on my post the other day here, but the New Avengers Facility scene is problematic. It should be set at nighttime, because there's no way they can be arriving at the facility in the morning and to have flown to Wakanda and all the Wakanda events to have occurred, all before 10:24. It doesn't really work as the evening before, but it works better. As things stand, and I work through it all in that post, I would say the facility scene is the afternoon mere hours after the attack in New York. Which matches what you're saying DIrishB about the fact that they would go straight back to the New Avengers Facility and not delay for several hours for no particular reason.

    You're talking about mapping out the episodes against the film - I've already had a good crack at that in the post I linked from a few days ago. I know it's long, but a lot of it is just event descriptions. In italics is the reasoning and things, and then it's just copy-and-pasted into order at the bottom, so it's not as long a read as it seems. I haven't done Episode 21 notes yet, but will update it, however, it holds up post-Episode 21 as much as it did before. I hope it's helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by selfishmisery View Post
    I thought the Lighthouse was in Lake Ontario, Canada?
    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    Damn, got me. River’s End is in NY, but I never realized it was on Lake Ontario (always thought it was closer to NYC, I guess from Noah saying “an Asgardian in the city”.) So from that still, the sun either would come up on the right or straight in front of the camera. So the “pacing purposes” theory might still hold up.
    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    It's actually Lake Ontario, New York. So, right on the border with Canada, but its in US, least according to the MCU wiki. The underground structure of the Lighthouse is built under the lake itself, but the lighthouse/entrance itself (and probably entirety of the underground base) is on US side of the border.
    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    We can assume the base on Lake Ontario is at the western most point of Lake Ontario to still be within US border. If we figure the Lighthouse is somewhere in the black dot area on above map, and Talbot's residence somewhere in the red dot area in Virginia, and the blue line is the east to west distance, even though its in the same time zone, there is a possibility that east to west distance could be used to explain the difference in lighting for around same time of day.
    Yeah, the Lighthouse location is Lake Ontario New York. I think it was the postcard from the first half of the season that showed it was Lake Ontario, and in Episode 11 - All the Comforts of Home, Noah's computer specifically shows "River's End, N.Y." and they talk about the Asgardian in the city - New York City.

    Quote Originally Posted by crafty100 View Post
    SPOILER! Is it safe to say there is a good chance no one will fade out in AoS? Given that it's highly probable that time will be revered to bring people back, it will be as if it never happened at all, thus not having an effect on any show. Don't see this notion get acknowledged any where online
    Quote Originally Posted by 64SuperNintendo View Post
    SPOILER! I'm not sure if there is a good chance no one will fade out, but I agree it's possible. If Thanos' snap kills half of the universe randomly, it's possible that it either affects half of the cast of AoS, all of them, none of them, or a few of them.
    Quote Originally Posted by DE23111 View Post
    Either way, we will probably know next week when the show SPOILER! rips our hearts out again.
    Quote Originally Posted by crafty100 View Post
    SPOILER! It's not about whether they would fade due to it being a 50/50 chance. But if the movie super heroes reverse time so it was as if Thanos never clicked his fingers and no one faded, then no one in the shows would disappear. The only people that would be aware it happened and remember are those involved in reversing time, assuming they resolve it that way.
    Quote Originally Posted by 64SuperNintendo View Post
    Sure, but it depends on whether season 6 is made and takes place post-snap, and how they resolve it in Avengers 4. If season 6 does happen and members of the cast die, then season 6 would continue on from there, and if time is reversed in Avengers 4 so that no one ends up dying, I'd assume the same would apply to AoS.
    Quote Originally Posted by DE23111 View Post
    I REEEEEEEEALLLY don't think they are going to run the risk of spoiling Avengers 4 by having nobody fade.Especially since Jed has officiallycomeout and said that the two events are happening simultaneously.
    Quote Originally Posted by crafty100 View Post
    SPOILER! But if time is reversed the cast of Shield would not be aware it happened, therefore we would not see it unfold, it would be as if it never happened. Would be a waste of potentially the last season having the same arc twice with a different amount of characters if they did decide to show it.
    SPOILER! Same response, if time is reversed in some way, it wouldn't have an effect on the show
    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    Its entirely possible, and something I've seen mentioned in a few places, namely due to the rumors/evidence to support the idea of time travel in A4 from shooting leaks seemingly replicating events of Avengers, time travel approach/alternate or "corrected" timeline is a very real possibility. We'll just have to wait and see next year when it comes out.
    That said, I'd be pretty surprised if they didn't tie into events of Infinity War's ending in some way. Especially as release date wise, the show clearly aligning with and paralleling IW has laid groundwork that the events of the film will have direct impact on the show. To NOT address that in the season finale (or series finale depending on if it gets a Season 6) would create a weird and unnecessary disconnect for the audience, and also kind of indirectly spoil how they'd resolve these events in A4.
    So, odds are some folks are gonna disappear. All we can do is wait.
    Quote Originally Posted by DE23111 View Post
    No. I hear you. But as the audience if we are told on SHIELD that Thanos is attacking, and we have seen Infinity War and we know SPOILER! that his attack ends with a Snap and Agents of SHIELD SPOILER! doesn't end with a snap that would confirm Avengers 4 speculation SPOILER! And spoil Avengers 4 which Marvel would ABSOLUTELY NOT DO. Especially on AoS.
    Quote Originally Posted by crafty100 View Post
    True, but there would be at least 16 episodes with characters missing due to the release of date of Avengers 4, that's a long time, so I'm not sure they would do it for that reason. Be interesting to see how it pans out
    Quote Originally Posted by iammattie View Post
    I said it a few pages back, but I really think Coulson gets snapped and will somehow be brought back movie side (with Captain Marvel having a post credits shot with him in the present) and I think the "16 episodes without certain characters" bit enhances that theory. Coulson's disappearance gives them the chance to let Daisy fill the director role in those 16 episodes and clears up Clark's schedule for anything Marvel may need on the movie front. I also think this is why the show has been giving us new characters this season, they probably plan to flesh out the season 6 main cast with newer faces while Coulson, and supposedly Mack and May all "die" as has been hinted at.
    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    But you have to also account for the perspective of the audience, who wouldn't understand that twist as it wouldn't be revealed until Avengers 4 a year away.
    And IF there is a Season 6, its likely going to premiere in Fall, and run through to May, 2019 and Avengers 4's release, or a half season (which if it does get renewed seems more likely given its dwindling ratings), which would probably run from early 2019 to May.
    Either way, the situation is the same, and its an odd one for the TV show audience if they take that approach.

    But again, it creates a really odd and disconnected approach from the audience's perspective, as they're left wondering why the characters turned to ash (assuming some do, which is likely) at end of last season, suddenly and inexplicably are fine and ok again in season 6, leaving audience wondering how that is for entire season... just doesn't seem likely.

    You're assuming those characters come back at all. Again, we don't even know if Season 6 will happen, and even if it does, the show doesn't necessarily HAVE to keep everyone around. For all we know Thanos snap could simply be the end of AoS altogether, in universe and actuality.
    I think its entirely possible they'll utilize the time travel thing in A4, but I think you're overlooking the perspective aspect of time travel.
    For one, the time travel hasn't happened yet, and won't until presumably Avengers 4. So, the focus in present timeline on Agents hasn't yet been altered due to the Avengers time traveling, because they haven't actually time traveled to the past yet, relatively speaking. So, the timeline hasn't been rewritten. The original timeline is still playing out. Therefore its highly likely they'll use the snap and disappearance as a season finale, and if Season 6 does happen I'm thinking it'll focus on the remaining agents (those who didn't ash out) dealing with the post snap world, where half the population is gone, possibly new threats emerging from Thanos' armies/minions, etc. Or something else entirely. Tough to predict.
    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    Eh, its extremely unlikely they'll hold off on producing the show for a year. It's also unlikely they'd air it as a summer show (which it would kind of have to be to premiere after Avengers 4's release in May as you suggested).
    It really depends on Avengers 4 and how long it picks up after Infinity War. Is it directly after? A few days or weeks or months? A full year to follow real time?
    Will the film pick up a year later in the fallout of the snap with Tony already back on Earth (with a quick explanation of how him and Nebula got off Titan and him back to Earth)?
    There are a lot of possibilities and without knowing those details it becomes even tougher to make any predictions about their intent for the (so far) Season 6. I genuinely have no clue where they're going to go from here, and that's genuinely exciting.
    Quote Originally Posted by crafty100 View Post
    This would make sense, but if they do reverse time to solve it, then a large part of the series would be spent developing characters over an arc only for them to go back and then not be aware that even happened. Would be entertaining for us, but in terms of development and character arc, a waste of time. If they go this route, I feel like Avengers 4 would be silly to solve it with time travel, they would have to bring the dead back another way
    Quote Originally Posted by iammattie View Post
    I'm not too terribly sure that it'll be time travel that fixes things. Imo that seems to be what everyone is thinking, but everyone also though cap and iron man were gonna die in Infinity War. Marvel is trying to keep us on our toes, and that's why I'm thinking the leaked set photod was actually from a reality simulation akin to what we see at the start of Civil War.
    However If it is solved via time travel, the Netflix shows have it easy since they occur year before release typically and thus will never have to reference IW's events if they never happened. If there's no time travel at all, ooooh boy are those showrunners gonna have fun. We'll see.
    Agents of SHIELD will be forced to get creative either way if it's picked up for a season 6. I'm thinking that perhaps it'll start around 2022/2023 since we already saw those flashback/flashforward scenarios and with word being that Scott Lang's daughter was recast older it'll keep it along with the film. If time travel does occur, this makes it so a large amount of character progression won't eve lost either, and I'd imagine they'll find a way for specific characters to keep memories if the timeline does revert.
    Quote Originally Posted by Katalina Caine View Post
    In the comics, Thanos' snap is canceled by Adam Warlock's will with the gauntlet. They could use the same way. And time travel without time stone ??? How could it be ?
    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    Well Adam Warlock won't be in Avengers 4 according to the Russo brothers, and Gunn has said he will probably introduce him in Guardians of the Galaxy 3. Of course that could all be just misdirection to keep the fans guessing, so its definitely a possibility.
    As for time travel without the Time Stone, the theory is that if it isn't a case of time travel (based on them behind the scenes shots of them recreating scenes from the first Avengers film), its Tony's BARF hologram system that we saw him use in Civil War, in that scene at MIT where he recreated that scene from when he was young and his parents were still alive. Its possible they're doing same for some reason but focusing on events of Avengers, but I think time travel with the Time Stone is a more likely possibility.
    That said, using the Gauntlet its presumably equally as possible to revive/bring back everyone turned to ash by Thanos' snap, even without time travel. Just need another snap, I suppose?
    This is the debate I've been mentally having for a couple of weeks now. Will the show do SPOILER! the snap?

    On the one hand:
    •The episode was written to act, if necessary, as the whole show's final episode. It would be a bit weird if what they prepared as the potential final episode of the show ended in SPOILER! half of the characters just spontaneously dying. Not sacrificing themselves or anything, just... dying. And never revisited.
    •Just how divided Marvel films and TV are is unclear, and with Infinity War shrouded in so much secrecy, I always thought there's a good chance the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. showrunners didn't know about the ending.
    •If they did know, that means the cast of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. knew a few months ago, which would be odd, considering the cast of the actual film weren't clear on plot details and the vibe every film cast member kept giving off was so in-the-dark.
    •With Season 6 premiering after Avengers 4, they could, if they wanted to, just end this finale just before SPOILER! the snap, and then pick up in Season 6 after the resolution to SPOILER! the snap. But they more than likely didn't know the Season 6 status when writing this episode.
    •With so much set to go on in this episode, it feels like a bit much to go through at the end.
    •If they didn't know Season 6 was going to be late, then if they chose to do SPOILER! the snap in this episode, that would mean that they had made the conscious decision to follow that storyline through into a potential full Season 6. This would have meant (as I was thinking when assuming a Season 6 would have been 22 episodes September-May) that, like crafty100 pointed out, 16-20 episodes with only half the cast, and faffing around dealing with something that cannot be resolved until April/May 2019. And then there'd be the resolution itself. For the show to make the decision that it could advance past the end of Infinity War would have been a very bold move because what if it all gets reversed? They have about 18 episodes' worth of content just meaningless, and then S6E19 picks up as if the previous 18 episodes never happened? What if they don't know what happens in Avengers 4, which is a very strong possibility? Granted, we now know that if they were to do SPOILER! the snap in this episode, they would only be catching up with Infinity War and wouldn't have to get any further until Avengers 4 has already come out, but did they know that?
    •If they did SPOILER! the snap as the finale but then just picked up in Season 6 with it resolved post-Avengers 4, that'd also be a weird resolution to a season-ending cliffhanger.
    •The SPOILER! ash/fading effect itself is apparently a very hard effect to do, and I doubt Marvel films are allowed to just lend the template to Marvel TV. They'd have to replicate it exactly, and have known exactly how it was going to look ahead of time to prepare the effect.

    On the other hand:
    •They're less than 3 hours out from SPOILER! the snap. Theoretically, assuming there some sort of working together to line up the timelines, they would have to catch up. I can't see the events of this finale taking less than 3 hours.
    •They went out of their way to set these last 4 episodes concurrently with Infinity War. While, yes, they might have just felt that the fans were expecting a tie-in and they couldn't disappoint, they didn't need to. They had themselves placed in January 2018 and Infinity War seemed more like spring, they could have given it a wide berth, but they chose to reference the events. Surely in referencing the events they had some confidence about how those events were going down and how they'd affect their show?
    •There's the possibility of reshoots/additional shooting, I guess. I don't know how easy that is. And I don't know when they found out they got a Season 6, but if it was like 2+ weeks ago, they could've had time to go, "Oh we can do a cliffhanger then," and change the ending.


    Also, I think there's a very good chance some time stuff is involved in Avengers 4, but the The Avengers set photos were all-but confirmed as B.A.R.F.. B.A.R.F. props were spotted on the same set, and the Russos, when asked about filming those scenes, basically said something to the effect of, "We don't want people to think it is time travel only to be let down. It's not time travel. All we will actually say is that there's something we put in a scene in Civil War that will come back and be more important in this film. The fans can probably work it out." The events of Infinity War have now made me realise that there's actually a possibility of the Russos lying - they lied over a few things on Infinity War - but I'm inclined to believe this case.

    I think whatever the SPOILER! snap resolution is, it won't be a simple time reversal like one might expect. They'll find something interesting and surprising.

    Quote Originally Posted by DIrishB View Post
    Agents of SHIELD gets a 13 Episode Season 6
    No word on it if premieres in Fall or in early 2019, but I’d assume the latter to take advantage of potential Avengers 4 tie in.
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    Perfect. Now they won't have to "spoil" Avengers 4.
    Excited for it. It's about 3 or 4 times now that the show has survived people counting it out and declaring it all-but-dead. It keeps on surviving, and it's a really good show, at least most of the time. I'm really glad it's been renewed.

    The fact that it's 13 episodes when the rest has been 22 is not particularly comfortable with my OCD XD and I'm a little bit uncomfortable as well because this Season 5 finale was apparently written to function as the show's final episode, for if that were to be the case - and that makes me think that a continuation might be awkward and that the show's actual final episode, whenever that comes, might not end up being as satisfying. Plus, with it not airing until presumably May-July, starting around the time the season would usually end - it's a whole year with no Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. And possibly a whole new season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. without Coulson, if he's going to die. It just feels a bit odd.

    But oh well, minor things (and I'm sure they'll sort it), I'm glad that it's renewed, I really like the show and care about the characters.

    When the 13 episodes was announced, I thought it might be that they take the September-December for New Warriors and then January/February/March-May for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but summer. Interesting. Maybe it'll reach new viewers.

    Quote Originally Posted by DE23111 View Post
    Alright guys, so, I emailed the guy who wrote that Marvel 101 book to ask about the Iron Man 3 timeline that he put at the top of the page (I just like to be thorough. And I wasn't exactly how much communication DK Publishing had with Marvel.) BUT, he responded today and the answer is pretty interesting.

    "Thanks for your email. That is a great question!

    To answer your first question, yes, Marvel Studios reviews and approves DK’s books several times before they are printed, so the books are as official as it gets.

    Interestingly enough though, I didn’t actually write the little statement in the intro for Iron Man 3 that says most of the story takes place in 2012. That was added by the publisher and approved by Marvel Studios after I finished writing everything. So, I don’t actually know the reasons behind it myself. It does seem like a long time span for the movie to cover.

    I’m glad you enjoyed the book. Later this year DK will be publishing my next Marvel Studios book, the "Marvel Studios Visual Dictionary," which may also interest you.

    Kind Regards,

    Adam Bray"

    So, I concede, as much as believe there to be evidence to the contrary, clearly Marvel wanted that included, thus that was their intent. As of now I agree that Iron Man 3 takes place in 2012.

    (SPOILER! Until Harley Keener shows up next year and tells us it happened in 2013 hahaah
    Thanks for checking that! I do wonder if the book has any other dates. I will try to find it (not going to buy, but might have a flick through in a book shop).

    Harley being announced for Avengers 4 was a bit surprising, I thought. Wasn't expecting a return.
    Ty Simpkins was about 11y0m old during filming for Iron Man 3, suggesting Harley would have been born around December 2001-ish. He was about 16y2m old during filming for Avengers 4, which would suggest the film is only set around early 2018. Obviously that's not really evidence for the exact dating of the films because his age doesn't matter that much, to the point where you get a couple of years' leeway - but my point is that it would suggest Avengers 4 is set just after Infinity War, and not several years later like the Cassie rumour might suggest.




    Also guys, Marvel released some official stills, which included one from the credits scene with the 10:24 visible, for you guys who didn't catch it in the film.


    Phew, big catch-up done.
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    https://www.newsarama.com/40003-phil...ark-gregg.html

    Excited for this, maybe it will give some insight as to what side of the 90's Coulson and May's encounter with the Superior falls on

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    SPOILER! No one turns to dust in the AoS finale. I'm guessing the season ends right before the snap happens.
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    After seeing Infinity War again...I saw Rhodey's watch in the compound scene, it looked like 6:00.

    So, given Scotland is 5 hours ahead of New York, and Wakanda is 7, it's possible they just fly back from Scotland and it's still pre dusk at the compound right? And then they just pack up the Hulkbuster and stuff and fly out to Wakanda that night? Because as I was watching it, it seemed like that was the desired timing of it all. I don't remember the last four SHIELD's beat by beat though, so if I missed something in the movie or on the show that contradicts that thought process, just let me know.

    Since I'm positive that the finale happens more than likely SPOILER! mere moments before the snap
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    SPOILER! No one turns to dust in the AoS finale. I'm guessing the season ends right before the snap happens.
    That would mean IW takes place over days, possibly longer. I'm thinking time was reversed or, more simple yet, they just haven't tied them together to maintain the shows own road map and characters

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    https://screenrant.com/avengers-infi...ogers-reunion/

    Nothing concrete, but something to think about when placing the Bucky scene in BP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crafty100 View Post
    That would mean IW takes place over days, possibly longer. I'm thinking time was reversed or, more simple yet, they just haven't tied them together to maintain the shows own road map and characters
    Nope. IW is definitely only a 24 hour period (well, not exactly 24 hours but definitely around one day).

    The AoS finale ends soon before Thanos arrives in a Wakanda from Titan, before the snap. Hence no people disappearing on AoS. That’s per the showrunners themselves.

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    It definitely seems like several hours have passed between Graviton in Chicago and the “funeral” scene, if not days. Excluding the two we don’t see (Fitz and Deke), the team is a total of 7 people, plus the two retirees. It’s certainly not statistically impossible that they were all just spared.

    Either way there’s a narrative disconnect. The tone was too hopeful to have been in a post-Snap world, but at the same time... are we just assuming everyone just expects the Avengers to win? Graviton’s entire plan was based around becoming powerful enough to stop Thanos, and now that he’s actually coming, SHIELD has no interest in joining the fight?

    Not complaining, I think the finale was awesome on it’s own and I know the logistics of crossing over are tough, but it makes the timeline a little bumpy.

    Personally, I just wish they didn’t make these 4 episodes concurrent with IW. The Confederacy could have still used Thanos as an effective scare-tactic without having these episodes take place so close to another potentially cataclysmic event.

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    Regarding the Wakanda Civil War credits scene, we didn't really see it as a mistake, because there's numerous potential explanations. For example, the comic seems to imply that in the "weeks" since Civil War, they have been trying to come up with a solution for Bucky but haven't found something yet, and have come to the conclusion that for now, the best option is to freeze him. So, in Black Panther, either Bucky has already arrived in Wakanda and Shuri has been trying to come up with a solution, or she's been told about Bucky and that she'll be having to work on him. With the beginning of the film seemingly - and as synopses have said - being T'Challa's first return to Wakanda after his father's death, and the comic saying "weeks later", we decided that it should place after the film, and not before or during the first half.

    Also, on my second viewing, I too caught the 10:24 in Fury's car. I didn't catch the clock in Scotland - I can see where it is, from going to that scene on an online version - it's immediately after the Q-ship in Edinburgh flies away. But the angle is very hard to see, and the online versions have the clock-face looking too bright.

    Something else that I noticed this time, which weirdly, I hadn't thought of before, was specifics about Thor's hair. It's almost exactly the same as in Ragnarok, including the streaks on the side of his head from Stan Lee's bad haircutting skills. This would also suggest it's been very little time since the events of the film. It's possible that Asgardian hair grows slower than humans, but yeah, just another point there.

    I've been doing time zone working and working out the rough timings for all the Infinity War and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. scenes to see how it fits together and where the divides are between days.
    The Episode 20 notes are not particularly firmly timed, because there is no next milestone to match it with, like a sunrise to stretch the night's events across - it's just working forwards from the previous timings.
    Also, the timings come from an assumption of January 10th-11th, considering it doesn't seem like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. can be later than early January. With Tony's phone saying it's Wednesday, and the S.H.I.E.L.D. events picking up a few days prior in early January, then the earliest it can be is January 10th. So that's the date I used for the timings, with it being the only date I can see working - plus, it's closer to Ragnarok. The sunrise and sunset times would be slightly different depending on the time of year, though, if it were a bit later than January 10th-11th.

    But here's the results:

    WEDNESDAY
    SPOILER! •13:05-12 - The Statesman.
    ---As late as possible so that Thor is floating through space for the minimum time possible. Hulk is sent off about 2 minutes before the end of the scene, and that is at least 2 minutes before "Thanos is coming."
    •13:12 - "Thanos is coming."
    ---As late as possible so that Thor is floating through space for the minimum time possible. At least 2 minutes after Hulk was sent from The Statesman. At least 5 minutes before they talk to Tony and Pepper, because Bruce has to get changed.
    •13:16-17 - Pepper and Tony.
    ---As late as possible so that Thor is floating through space for the minimum time possible. At least 4-5 minutes after "Thanos is coming." At least 2-3 minutes before the discussion in the Sanctum.
    •13:19-21 - The discussion in the Sanctum.
    ---13:21 - Tony checks the phone. The Q-ship arrives.
    •"WED" "01:21PM" shown on phone. So as late as possible, the film begins at 13:05.
    •13:22-41 - Attack on Greenwich Village. Tony and Peter end up on the ship.
    •13:42 - Bruce calls Steve.
    ---"01:42PM" shown on phone.
    •13:42 - The Guardians pick up Thor.
    ---Immediately after so as to minimise the time since The Statesman exploded.
    •13:50 - Thor wakes and tells them everything that happened.
    •14:10/19:10 Scotland (or 15:45/20:45 Scotland) - Scotland bedroom.
    ---Now things get problematic, and it's all because the Avengers Facility scene is shown to be daytime, when it should be night.
    ---The birds are cheeping when they return to the New Avengers Facility, suggesting it's the morning, which would mean it's after the 07:19 sunrise - earliest possible 07:25. However, the problem there is that the flight after that from New York to Wakanda (which, from the map in Civil War, is by Lake Turkana, Kenya) is about 7094.589 miles. Quinjet top speeds have been calculated to be about 1600mph - which happens to match the comics' Quinjet top speed of Mach 2.1, which is 1611.27mph. 7094.589 miles/1611.27mph = a 4:24 flight. Even at the dangerous absolute top speed of about 2000mph from The Team, 7094.589 miles/2000mph = 3:33 flight. Including time to get up to top speed, there is absolutely no way the jet is getting to Wakanda before 11:05 New York time, which would be 18:05 Wakanda time - with Wakanda's sunset being 18:46. If they went at absolute top speed and the Wakanda events happened as fast as absolutely possible, you could just about, juuusssttt squeeze the Wakanda events in before sunset, finishing no later than 18:40, 11:40 New York. However, Fury's car in the credits scene says "10:24", and the scene was shot in Atlanta. This would suggest that the scene takes place 10:24 east coast, so 17:24 Wakanda time - but that's before the earliest time that they could possibly have even arrived in Wakanda. Even if it's another time zone and not Atlanta, which would be odd because it looks like Atlanta, it is still a :24, meaning the latest it can be is 11:24 east coast, 18:24 Wakanda, and there's just no way that all the Wakanda events take place in 19 minutes between arrival and the snap - especially with that already assuming that the Avengers went dangerously fast to get to Wakanda already. More likely than it being not Atlanta is the car clock being wrong, but then we're back to still pushing it with 11:40. Also, with it being night in Scotland, if it is morning in New York when they arrive, they must have delayed for several hours before getting back, despite the scene showing Steve directing them "home" (the facility), straight there.
    ---So, OK, what if the New Avengers Facility scene is actually still on the Wednesday, just before sunset? Sunset is 16:47, so realistically, the latest this can be is 16:40. Well, that wouldn't really make sense with the birds tweeting, but that's not particularly bad - can it fit in otherwise? From Edinburgh Waverley station to New York is about 3262.368 miles. 3262.368 miles/1611.27mph maximum is a 2:01 flight + a few minutes of speeding up and slowing down, which would mean that the latest they could have left Scotland really is 14:35 New York/19:35 Scotland, to get there by 16:40. So, Steve and co. got there by 14:30, arriving in Wakanda about 48 minutes after Bruce called at 13:42. If they got on the jet immediately, it's a 45-minute journey. 0.75 hours*1611.27mph = 1208.4525 miles maximum that they could have been from Edinburgh. The majority of Europe is within that radius, so if they were in Europe at the time of being called, that works - especially with them mentioning that the plan was always for Vision and Scarlet Witch to stay nearby. And then that allows for the finale to fit comfortably before 10:42 and before the Wakanda sunset. However, Bwdelano says that the clock-face shown at an angle behind Steve after the fight in Edinburgh Waverley station (specifically the shot after you see the Q-ship leave) looks like it might read as 9:10. I didn't catch it myself, it was too fast, and online versions are too unfocused to see any hands. This would make it 21:10, so 16:10 New York, and therefore they cannot get back to the facility before sunset, so it would have to be the next morning. However, apart from the implication from the bird noises and the possible clock-face, this way around works. It also works better for Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight only just turning up, being pretty soon after New York is attacked rather than several hours, as well as the fact that the news is showing the New York events as "breaking news". This also means that the jet can simply go straight back to the facility from Scotland, which makes more sense. And, if the facility scene is that afternoon instead of the next morning, that would also make more sense for the Q-ship Doctor Strange scenes which pick up afterwards - it would allow those scenes to be more like 11 hours after Tony and Peter got on-board, instead of about 19. It seems like Tony and Peter haven't been on-board very long when Tony realises Peter's still there, so the less time the better.
    ---The third option is that the film actually lasts not 21.5 hours, but 45.5 hours. So the facility scene would be the following morning of the Thursday, but then the Wakanda events are the morning after that, the Friday. This seems unlikely since it would mean that Strange, Tony, and Peter don't eat or drink for 2 days as they travel, and generally doesn't fit with the feel of the film. This possibility though comes down to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in the end. If the events of the last 2 episodes carry through to the next morning and coincide with the end of the film, then it's just 21.5 hours. If they spend a whole day still fine, with the end of the film having not occurred yet by next afternoon, then the film lasts 45.5 hours.
    ---For now though, I'm assuming that the facility scene is 16:40 on the Wednesday, as this is currently the most-supported option, but will put the other options up as well in case.
    ---So, this scene, about 25 minutes before the fighting ends at 14:35 New York/19:35 Scotland, would be about 14:10 New York/19:10 Scotland.
    •14:30-35/19:30-35 Scotland (or 16:05-10/21:05-10 Scotland) - Edinburgh fight.
    •15:17 (or 21:15) - Gamora asks Peter to kill her if Thanos gets her. Drax thinks he's mastered being invisible.
    ---Two scenes between 14:35 and 16:40, so 16:40 - 14:35 = 2:05. 2:05/3 = 0:41.66667. 14:35 + 0:41.66667 = 15:16.66667, 15:17.
    ---Otherwise, two scenes between 16:10 and 07:25, so Thursday 07:25 - Wednesday 16:10 = 15:15. 15:15/3 = 5:05. 16:10 + 5:05 = 21:15.
    •15:58 (or Thursday 02:20) - Knowhere.
    ---15:16.66667 + 0:41.66667 = 15:58.33333, 15:58.
    ---Otherwise, 21:15 + 5:05 = 02:20.
    •16:40 (or Thursday 07:25) - The facility.
    ---As explained, either 16:40 or Thursday 07:25.
    •23:45/06:45 Wakanda (or Thursday 07:47/14:47 Wakanda, or Thursday 10:02/17:02 Wakanda) - Wakanda. Bucky gets his new arm.
    ---If you were to distribute the scenes between the facility and the arrival in Wakanda, this would be soon after the facility scene. However, by 16:40 New York, we're at 23:40 Wakanda, which is way after sunset. Sunrise in Wakanda is 06:34, so 23:34 New York, so the earliest this scene can be - placing it as early as possible - is 23:45/06:45 New York.
    ---If the facility is 07:25, then we're already just distributing the scenes between this and the next time-allocated scene, when they arrive in Wakanda at 11:05ish absolute earliest. So 9 scenes between 07:25 and 11:05. 11:05 - 07:25 = 3:40. 3:40/10 = 0:22. 07:25 + 0:22 = 07:47.
    ---Or, if the film spans 45.5 hours, then we're looking at 07:25 on the Thursday to 09:30 on the Friday. So 10 scenes between Thursday 07:25 and Friday 09:30. Friday 09:30 - Thursday 07:25 = 26:05. 26:05/10 = 2:36.5. 07:25 + 2:36.5 = 10:01.5, 10:02.



    THURSDAY
    SPOILER! •00:50 (or 08:09, or 12:38 ) - Ebony Maw tortures Strange. Peter reveals he's still there. Using the vaccuum. They decide to let the ship go to Titan.
    ---8 scenes between 23:45 and 09:30 (which is the natural time for their arrival in Wakanda if you work back from 10:24). 09:30 - 23:45 = 9:45. 9:45/9 = 1:05. 23:45 + 1:05 = 00:50.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 07:47 + 0:22 = 08:09.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 10:01.5 + 2:36.5 = 12:38.
    •01:55 (or 08:31, or 15:15) - Gamora says she hated her life. Thanos reveals he is torturing Nebula, until Gamora tells him the Soul Stone is on Vormir.----MIDDLE OF THE FILM----
    ---00:50 + 1:05 = 01:55.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 08:09 + 0:22 = 08:31.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 12:38 + 2:36.5 = 15:14.5, 15:15.
    •03:00 (or 08:53, or 17:51) - Thor laments everything he's lost. Rocket gives him a new cybernetic eye. They arrive in Nidavellir and meet Eitri.
    ---01:55 + 1:05 = 03:00.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 08:31 + 0:22 = 08:53.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 15:14.5 + 2:36.5 = 17:51.
    •04:05 (or 09:15, or 20:28 ) - Nebula escapes and contacts Mantis.
    ---03:00 + 1:05 = 04:05.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 08:53 + 0:22 = 09:15.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 17:51 + 2:36.5 = 20:27.5, 20:28.
    •05:10 (or 09:37, or 23:04) - The Q-ship crashes on Titan. The Guardians meet Tony, Peter, and Strange.
    ---04:05 + 1:05 = 05:10.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 09:15 + 0:22 = 09:37.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 20:27.5 + 2:36.5 = 23:04.
    •06:15 (or 09:59, or Friday 01:41) - Eitri shows them the mould for Stormbreaker.
    ---05:10 + 1:05 = 06:15.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 09:37 + 0:22 = 09:59.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 23:04 + 2:36.5 = 01:40.5, 01:41.
    •07:20 (or 10:21, or Friday 04:17) - The two teams on Titan discuss plans. "Kick names, take ass." Strange returns from seeing 14 million futures.
    ---06:15 + 1:05 = 07:20.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 09:59 + 0:22 = 10:21.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 01:40.5 + 2:36.5 = 04:17.
    •08:25 (or 10:43, or Friday 06:54) - Vormir.
    ---07:20 + 1:05 = 08:25.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 10:21 + 0:22 = 10:43.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 04:17 + 2:36.5 = 06:53.5, 06:54.
    •09:30 (or 11:05, or same time on the Friday) - Arriving in Wakanda.
    •09:40-09:45 (or 11:08, or same time on the Friday) - Shuri and Banner. The Outrider ships begin to crash down.
    •09:57-10:02 (or 11:12-17, or same time on the Friday) - Thor uses Rocket's ship to start moving the rings of Nidavellir. The forge starts up but then breaks.
    •09:57-10:05 (or 11:12-20, or same time on the Friday) - The group prepare in Wakanda. Cull Obsidian and Proxima Midnight approach. The Outriders are unleashed. Charge.
    •10:05-10:08 (or 11:18-21, or same time on the Friday) - Thor holds the forge. Stormbreaker is forged. Groot makes the handle.
    •10:10-10:12 (or 11:21-23, or same time on the Friday) - The battle continues. Thor arrives.
    •10:12-10:19 (or 11:22-29, or same time on the Friday) - Thanos gets to Titan. Strange greets him. The group all attack. They try to get the gauntlet off, but Star-Lord loses control. Thanos throws the moon at them.
    •10:14-10:19 (or 11:24-29, or same time on the Friday) - Rocket and Bucky team up. Steve talks to Thor and Groot. The underground mining vehicles erupt from the ground. Wanda goes to the battlefield but Corvus Glaive then attacks Shuri. Hulkbuster fights Cull Obsidian. Vision and Steve fight Corvus Glaive. The women fight Proxima Midnight and Scarlet Witch kills her. Vision kills Corvus Glaive.
    •10:19-10:23 (or 11:29-33, or same time on the Friday) - Spider-Man grabs the Guardians as the moon crashes down on them. Strange takes on Thanos. Thanos attacks Iron Man, who does everything he can to fight back. Thanos stabs Tony, and Strange gives Thanos the stone in return for sparing Tony.
    •10:23 (or 11:31, or same time on the Friday) - Thor continues to fight. Vision senses Thanos coming. The team all fail against Thanos. Vision tells Wanda to destroy the stone, and she does. Nonetheless, Thanos reverses Vision and takes the stone. Thor hurls the axe, but Thanos survives.
    •10:24/17:24 (or 11:32, or same time on the Friday) - The snap.
    •10:24-25/17:24-25 (or 11:32-33, or same time on the Friday) - People disappear. Credits scene.
    ---"10:24" shown in Fury's car.






    And the time zones for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.:

    SATURDAY
    •Events of Episode 14.
    [Episode 15]
    •Coulson is shown his room.

    SUNDAY
    •Coulson is given the cereal/Ruby ploy.
    •Coulson is told about Ruby being Hale's daughter.
    •Coulson is shown the Confederacy machine.
    •Coulson meets Qovas.
    •Coulson reveals he killed Whitehall.
    •Hale reveals that Ruby was designed for the project. However, she suggests Daisy.
    •Coulson reveals that he saw the outcome when he and his team were in the future.
    •Ruby asks Coulson how she failed, but he reveals that it wasn't her who was the Destroyer of Worlds.
    •Ruby shows Coulson what has happened to Talbot.

    MONDAY
    •The team work out Hale is Hydra.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 15----
    •May visits Fitz.
    •Mack and Jemma operate to give Yo-Yo her new arms.
    •May and Daisy talk to Fitz. Daisy is angry.
    •Daisy goes to contact the Hintons.
    •Simmons reveals that Deke is their grandson, and tells him she feels they are invincible.

    TUESDAY
    [Episode 16]
    •07:40 - Coulson is in isolation.
    ---Daytime Appalachian Mountains. Sunrise 07:33. Has to be right after and time has to be absolutely minismised to make this fit, as will be explained.
    •07:41 - Hale offers Creel the new material. Ruby asks her mother what she is doing. Coulson has been in isolation for 2 days.
    •07:43 - Creel touches the gravitonium.
    •07:43 - Yo-Yo tests her new arms.
    •07:43 - Fitz is unimpressed with Deke.
    •07:45 - Simmons asks Deke about whether she and Fitz survive, and he confirms it.
    •07:47 - Zephyr One is leaving to pick up Robin.
    •07:53 - Simmons questions Yo-Yo about her feeling that she can't die. Simmons says that Deke is their proof that she and Fitz will also survive, and she promises to get Fitz out.
    •07:59 - Hale talks to Creel. Creel is going mad with the noises in his head.
    •08:05 - The Retreat. Picking up Robin.
    ---Daytime, so after 07:19ish. Minimum time since the Zephyr left at 07:47.
    •08:18 - Ruby visits Strucker, who says he's close.
    •08:18 - 5 minutes out from the Zephyr One. Robin's not helping Daisy.
    ---Daytime, so after 07:19ish. Minimum time since the Quinjet picked up Robin at 08:00.
    •08:18 - Mack is frustrated with Yo-Yo, who wants him to let Fitz out.
    •08:18 - Creel can't sleep. He goes to Coulson.
    ---Earliest possible, still 08:18.
    •08:21 - Creel says the gravitonium wants Coulson dead. Coulson tells him what's happened to
    Talbot, and Creel takes out the guard and takes Coulson to where he thinks Talbot might be and see if he's telling the truth.
    ---Earliest possible, 08:16.
    •08:23 - Polly wonders what Robin's last drawing meant.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 16----
    ---Docking, so 5 minutes after 08:13.
    •08:24 - Robin sees May and calls her "Mom".
    ---Daytime, so before 16:45ish.
    •08:24 - They find Talbot.
    •08:24 - Simmons and Yo-Yo pull the stunt on Mack.
    •08:26 - Yo-Yo accidentally sets off the gun.
    •08:26 - May and Robin talk. Robin had stopped drawing. She says Coulson will die. She draws Coulson in a mountain range.
    •08:27 - Deke wants sympathy from Daisy.
    •08:27 - Creel is going mad as they try to escape. A mech hears them.
    •08:28 - An alarm is set off. Hale sends Ruby after them.
    •08:28 - The Invincible Three go to the closest location.
    ---As early as possible, 08:28.
    •08:29 - As the alarm goes off, the trio are attack. Coulson's heart stops, but Creel revives him.
    •08:30 - Ruby arrives with mechs and they pursue the trio.
    •09:12 - May and Polly talk. Robin still wants Polly.
    There are two scenes between 08:30 and the Invincible Three arriving in Herefordshire. That needs to be as early as possible because very little time has passed for Coulson and Talbot and it has to be as early as possible to still be daytime in Herefordshire by just before the end of the episode. 3378.303 miles, and the top speed of a Quinjet is Mach 2.1 (it can go slightly faster, up to 2000mph in extreme urgency when they need the risky speeds, like in The Team, but otherwise, the top speed is 1611.27mph). 3378.303 miles/1611.27mph = 2:06 flight at top speed, + a few minutes to get up to top speed, so absolute minimum 2:09. They get to Herefordshire at 08:28 + 2:09 = 10:37. 10:37-08:30 = 2:07. 2:07/3 = 0:42.33333, so 08:30 + 0:42.33333 = 09:12.33333. 09:12.
    •09:54 - Pinned down.
    ---Second block of scenes, 09:12.33333 + 0:42.33333 = 09:54.66667. 09:54-09:55.
    •09:55 - Escape with the teleport machine.
    •09:55 - Creel and Ruby fight. Ruby throws a chakram at Creel, who wedges it in his chest, made of wood. Hale sends Ruby after Coulson and Talbot.
    •09:55 - Coulson and Tlabot arrive in the snow.
    [Episode 17]
    •10:37/15:37 Herefordshire - Herefordshire, skydiving.
    ---No more than 2½ hours ago it was still daytime in the U.S., which means it is morning U.S./afternoon U.K., not night U.S./morning U.K.. I tried both ways around, and this can just about barely work, the other way cannot work at all. This is why the timings have been like this so far. As explained, 08:28 + 2:09 flight = 10:37 is the very earliest it can be. This is 15:37 Herefordshire, so they've got 42 minutes until sunset at 16:19.
    •10:37 - Talbot feels like he let people down.
    •10:37 - Ruby goes through the machine.
    •10:37 - The team follow the drawing and go to land.
    •10:44 - Quake arrives.
    ---Absolute minimum the team land at 10:41 and this is 10:44.
    •10:45 - Daisy meets Ruby and they fight.
    •10:46 - Deke gets injured. Hale arrives.
    •10:50 - The team try to help Deke.
    •10:50 - Piper lets Mack out of Fitz's cell.
    •10:50/15:50 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo worries about radiation poisoning, but they scan and there is none. Fitz is awkward with Yo-Yo about losing arms.
    ---Earliest possible. Still daytime, still before 11:19/16:19 Herefordshire.
    •10:53 - Daisy scolds Deke. He starts coughing blood.
    ---At least 8 minutes since they tried to help him, so absolute earliest 10:53.
    •11:00 - The team wheel Deke to be operated. Piper and Mack agree to operate.
    •11:00 - Hale tells off Ruby and locks her in her room
    •11:00/16:00 Herefordshire - The Invincible Three move in on the base. Fitz gets an encrypted signal. They notice Ivanov.
    ---Earliest possible. Still daytime, still before 11:19/16:19 Herefordshire.
    •11:03 - Coulson tells Talbot about Deke and the Kree in the future while Deke is operated on.
    •11:04 - May tells Coulson she loves him.
    •11:04 - Strucker enters Ruby's room and convinces her to lure Hale in and escape.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 17---
    •11:04/16:04 Herefordshire - The Three close in further. Ivanov calls Hale to say the chamber is ready. Fitz sets off explosions and Ivanov tells Hale he'll handle it. The Three find the chamber.
    •11:05 - Hale's assistant asks her about Ivanov, and Hale says their interests align.
    •11:06 - Hale enters Ruby's room. Ruby says her mother is her weakness and hugs her, then knocks her down and escapes.
    •11:08 - Strucker shoots and tells Hale's men to prepare the gravitonium for transport. Ruby catches up with him and tells him they are free and clear.
    •11:08 - Talbot and Daisy talk. She asks him to tell him everything he remembers.
    •11:08/16:08 Herefordshire - FitzSimmons look at the technology. Yo-Yo reveals that trying to save Coulson is what led to the end. She super-speeds, but her arms malfunction.
    •11:08 - Mack and Piper talk about Mack's concerns for Yo-Yo while they operate.
    •11:09/16:09 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo is in pain. The soldiers are closing in. She heads out. Simmons is happy this is their honeymoon. Her gun jams and they're running low on ammunition.
    •11:10/16:10 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo finds Ivanov.
    •11:10/16:10 Herefordshire - Simmons asks for a reminder that time can't be changed, but then realises it's not helping.
    •11:11/16:11 Herefordshire - Ivanov insists he no longer feels pain. Yo-Yo fights him and throws him through a window.
    ---Earliest possible. Still daytime, still before 11:19/16:19 Herefordshire.
    •11:12/16:12 Herefordshire - The robots stop working.
    •11:12/16:12 Herefordshire - Who's Superior now. The robots convulse.
    ---Earliest possible. Still daytime, still before 11:19/16:19 Herefordshire.
    •12:26 - Deke is on drugs and spilling all his secrets.
    ---This is between the 11:08 scene and Ruby arriving in Herefordshire. She left around 11:11, and it's a 3810.458-mile journey. Assuming they also have Mach 2.1/1611.27mph, 3810.458 miles/1611.27mph = 2:22, + a few minutes to top speed + a few minutes to get inside, 2:30. So that's 13:41 at the earliest. Should be as early as possible because it looks like it's very soon after Yo-Yo took out Ivanov. So, halfway between 11:12 and 13:41, 12:26.5. This is 12:26-12:27.
    •12:27 - Daisy arrives and lets them know that they've got a ping from Hale's robots.
    •13:41/18:41 Herefordshire - After inspecting the robots following them fritzing out, Fitz decides it must have been something Yo-Yo did. Ruby and Strucker arrive and force them to fix the machine.
    ---13:41 as explained.
    •17:00 - Talbot calls Carla. She tells him to comply.
    ---There are 3 scenes between 13:41 and 03:25. 10th 03:25 - 9th 13:41 = 13:44. 13:44/4 = 3:26. 13:41 + 3:26 = 17:07.
    [Episode 18]
    •20:33 - Talbot mutters to himself that he has to complete his mission.
    ---17:07 + 3:26 = 20:33.
    •20:33 - Mack catches Talbot, but he gets away with it.
    •23:59/04:59 Herefordshire - Let her go, I need her help. I ship it. Everyone you care about will die.
    ---20:33 + 3:26 = 23:59.
    •23:59/04:59 Herefordshire - Complicated, it'll take a while. I'll remove body parts.


    WEDNESDAY
    •03:25/08:25 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo stumbles into the Quinjet in pain.
    ---08:16 is sunrise time, so this is likely at least 08:25. It seems like pretty soon after Yo-Yo defeated Ivanov, but has to be at least 16 hours. She must have stumbled through the night. Early as possible though. The birds are tweeting in the English countryside, so it is indeed morning, which works.
    •07:00 - Phil tries to talk to May about what she said, but she doesn't let him.
    •07:00 - Daisy tells them the plan. Wheels up in 5. Coulson praises Daisy's leadership. Daisy reveals that they have found Hale's base in the Appalachian Mountains.
    ---When Daisy and May arrive, it is seemingly just after Hale has left Creel's room and is going to go after Ruby, so that would be around 07:50. This would be around 07:00.
    •07:35 - Hale's assistant tells her that Ivanov is dead, and Creel had gotten much worse.
    •07:45 - Hale goes to see Creel, and he's losing control, banging his head against the wall.
    ---Daylight in Creel's room, so at least 07:33, and ideally at least 07:45. Not later though, since it seems like minimal time has passed.
    •07:45 - Coulson and Mack tell Deke that they know he fancies Daisy. He decides he'll use the 2091 lemons etiquette.
    •07:50 - Talbot looks at Robin's drawings.
    •07:50 - Daisy and May get into a containment module. They jet down to the base as the Zephyr fires a missile ahead.
    ---Daylight, at least 07:33 Appalachian Mountains.
    •07:55 - Hale surrenders to Daisy and May, wanting to get to Ruby.
    •07:55/12:55 Herefordshire - Ruby and Strucker threaten FitzSimmons to hurry up.
    •08:00/13:00 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo shoots a mech who gets to her jet, still in pain.
    •08:05 - Talbot talks to Robin and Polly.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 18----
    •08:10 - Daisy and May tell Coulson that gravitonium also absorbs consciousnesses.
    •08:10 - Talbot chokes Polly and takes Robin.
    •10:25/15:25 Herefordshire - The team land in England. Hale's fault.
    ---As established above, the journey is roughly 2:22, + a few minutes to top speed, so 2:25. They would have left around 08:00, meaning this is about 10:25.
    ---Daylight, so before 16:21 Herefordshire.
    •10:26/15:26 Herefordshire - Strucker tells Ruby that a plane just landed. The machine is ready. Strucker starts up a tube to transfer the gravitonium.
    •10:26 - Deke turns up to talk to Mack and Coulson. They find that the security feeds are paused.
    •10:30 - Coulson finds Polly still breathing.
    •10:30/15:30 Herefordshire - Ruby goes into the machine. It starts to go wrong. Hale hears and runs in. They shut it down with only 8% done. Ruby comes out of machine floating.
    •10:31/15:31 Herefordshire - Ruby can't deal with the voices. She accidentally kills Strucker. She begins to lose control.
    •10:35 - Coulson and Mack confront Talbot as he goes into the hangar. Talbot holds a gun to his own head.
    •10:35/15:35 Herefordshire - Ruby can't deal with so many voices. Daisy is kind.
    •10:35/15:35 Herefordshire - May arrives as Yo-Yo returns. May says Daisy is handling it.
    ---Daylight, so before 16:21 Herefordshire.
    •10:36 - Talbot believes he can't trust his thoughts. Mack takes Robin. Coulson commands that Talbot turn the gun on him. Mack I.C.E.s him.
    •10:36/15:36 Herefordshire - Ruby begins to crush Daisy. She tells Hale she feels she was never good enough, but Hale says that all she ever wanted was Ruby to meet her full potential.
    •10:38/15:38 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo arrives and realises Ruby is the one who took her arms. Ruby loses control again.
    •10:39/15:39 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo uses the chakram to slice Ruby's throat. Daisy is shocked, and Hale is devastated.
    •10:40/15:40 Herefordshire - Ruby's body releases a burst of gravitonium.
    ---Daylight, so before 16:21 Herefordshire.
    •10:41/15:41 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo believes she just saved the world.
    •15:00 - Hale visits Qovas and tells him that he can go after S.H.I.E.L.D..
    ---Ideally at least a few hours after Ruby's death. It would take 4 hours for people on her team to come from the mountains and pick her up and take her back, so that she can use the machine in the mountain base. Plus, her grief isn't quite so intense. The ship arrives at 16:35, so probably a little while before that as well. Coulson telling the team the plan at the beginning of Episode 19 is at 15:20, so that's the earliest this can be. We can assume roughly 15:00, allowing over 4 hours for Hale and 95 minutes between her telling Qovas he can attack and him actually arriving to attack.
    [Episode 19]
    •15:08 - Talbot tries to sleep in the Lighthouse and mutters coordinates.
    ---Halfway between 15:00 and 15:15 scenes.
    •15:15 - Coulson tells the team the plan to throw the gravitonium into the Sun. The team argue about Yo-Yo killing Ruby.
    ---Just before May and Daisy scene, which is 15:20.
    •15:20 - May and Daisy talk about what May has found from Caine.
    ---If Coulson expects Daisy to have returned by 16:50, she must have left at least an hour or more beforehand. However, it is better to have it later than earlier, to allow time at the end of Episode 18 for Hale to have been picked up and got back to the Appalachian base, and the agents to have been back for a little while. So, 15:20ish, an hour-and-a-half.
    •15:50 - Deke suggests multiverse again. They discuss the possibility of him blinking out of existence.
    ---Halfway between 15:20 and 16:20 scenes.
    •16:20 - Talbot continues to mutter coordinates. He calls for Coulson.
    ---Presumably about 10 minutes for them to get Coulson to go and see Talbot, which is at 16:30.
    •16:30 - Coulson visits Talbot. He tells Coulson he must have given their location.
    ---Seemingly just before the team realise the ship has arrived at 16:35.
    •16:35 - Qovas' ship arrives over the Lighthouse.
    ---Not long before the 16:45 scene after this, because the marauders would not have waited particularly long to attack.
    •16:35 - The team realise they are cut off from the world. Project: Reclamation is triggered, and Rick Stoner's video talks to them. Coulson selects the nuclear attack option before the alien invasion option shows. He accidentally locks them in for 15 years. Coulson tells the agents about the situation.
    •16:38 - Qovas video calls them. Coulson says that in the current political climate, they'll probably get shot down.
    •16:45 - Yo-Yo tries to explain her actions to Mack, who is not happy.
    ---Working back from 16:50, as explained later.
    •16:48 - May tells Yo-Yo you can only learn to live with your actions.
    •16:50 - Coulson wonders why Daisy isn't back by now. May reveals that she's gone dark to get information to save him. Yo-Yo thinks she killed Ruby for nothing.
    ---This scene continues after the 16:50 moment after this, so this is also 16:50.
    •16:50 - Qovas prepares marauders.
    ---Shown to be dark, but during sunset, around the later part of sunset. So, with sunset being 16:47, this would be roughly 16:50.
    •16:50 - Yo-Yo reveals her future self said they have to let Coulson die. Coulson realises the marauders can simply teleport in.
    •16:50 - The marauders are sent.
    •16:55 - The marauders arrive. Deke runs frmo them and hides in the vent as agents are killed.
    •17:00 - Energy fluctuations occur. Deke tells them the marauders are already inside.
    •17:05 - Deke tells them about the marauders. Coulson says they need to get Talbot out. Fitz tells Coulson there's an analogue override he needs to get to to get them out. Deke wonders why Daisy isn't back yet.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 19----
    •17:10 - Daisy talks to Tony Caine. He gives her Centipede serum. Mention of the Infinity War events in New York.
    ---Dark outside.
    •17:10 - Yo-yo gets Talbot out of his cell.
    •17:10 - Fitz is attacked. Deke helps him, and they get to the override, where they find it ripped up.
    •17:15 - Qovas sends more marauders.
    •17:15 - Agent Kim goes to the armoury. Coulson decides to defend control. Yo-Yo has Talbot. Deke is fixing the elevator for the gravitonium. Fit tells them the aliens have EMPs, and they need combustible things to create light sources. "Let's light 'em up."
    •17:20 - Yo-Yo and Talbot encounter marauders.
    •17:20 - Deke panics and doesn't want to die.
    •17:25 - Piper, Davis, and Simmons barricade themselves. Yo-Yo and Talbot arrive. Fitz tells Simmons on comms that Deke is still there, so Simmons feels they're safe. Yo-Yo heads out with Davis and Piper, leaving Simmons and Talbot as the last line of defence.
    •17:25 - Mack joins Fitz and Deke. Marauders attack.
    •17:30 - Yo-Yo, Piper, and Davis shoot into the dark. Yo-Yo leads the way, feeling she can't be killed.
    •17:35 - Simmons realises they are surrounded. Talbot takes an I.C.E.R.. He sees the machine and I.C.E.s Simmons. Talbot then enters the machine.
    •17:40 - Fitz has made a combustible cocktail. Deke calls Fitz "Gramps", which he doesn't appreciate. The doors rattle, but the noises stop and then come from above. The marauders enter and the team shoot.
    •17:40 - Yo-Yo, Piper, and Davis shoot at the marauders attacking the lab. Yo-Yo is concerned that she can't get through to Simmons. The doors suddenly burst open and a marauder's blood is splattered. Graviton emerges.
    •17:45 - The team are running out of ammunition and hand-to-hand fighting begins. Talbot enters and crushes the aliens.
    •17:50 - Yo-Yo finds Simmons. They see the 100%-used machine.
    •17:50 - Talbot lifts Coulson into the air, through the ceiling, and leaves with him. Rick Stoner's video tells them the planet is safe again.
    •17:50 - Daisy digs up Jiaying's body.
    [Episode 20]
    •17:55 - Talbot and Coulson approach Qovas' ship. Talbot believes he can fix the situation.
    •17:55 - The team at the Lighthouse are concerned that they can't help out, since the building has only just come back on line.
    •18:00 - A remaining marauder takes the odium and attacks Mack. Mack takes him down, and they take him prisoner.
    •18:05 - Talbot claims the ship and crushes an alien, forcing the other aliens to kneel.
    •18:14 - Mack and Yo-Yo talk about his fight with the rabid alien.
    ---Five scenes between 18:05 and 19:00. 19:00 - 18:05 = 0:55. 0:55/6 = 0:9.16667. 18:05 + 0:9.16667 = 18:14.16667.
    •18:23 - The marauder on odium becomes especially rabid, and then dies. Simmons decides she has to dissect him.
    ---18:14.16667 + 0:9.16667 = 18:23.33333.
    •18:33 - Talbot has everyone kneeling.
    ---18:23.33333 + 0:9.16667 = 18:32.5.
    •18:42 - Coulson visits Hale on the ship and asks to team up.
    ---18:32.5 + 0:9.16667 = 18:41.66667.
    •18:50 - Coulson and Hale return to the Remoraths and talk about the Confederacy. Hale tells Talbot he is the only one who can save them all. She reveals that the aliens wanted gravitonium.
    ---18:41.66667 + 0:9.16667 = 18:50.83333.
    •19:00 - Fitz believes it could take hours to get the power working again, but Deke fixes the power quickly. Daisy calls. She's arriving.
    ---Daisy has been trying to get through for 30 minutes, suggesting this is about half an hour after she got Jiaying's body, Assuming she probably was en route for her return by around 18:30.
    •19:10 - Yo-Yo confronts Daisy on her return.
    •19:10 - Yo-Yo and Daisy fight. May tells Yo-Yo to pitch in helping Coulson or leave.
    •20:00 - Talbot has had a trim. Coulson tells him he looks pretty cool. Talbot is transported over to see the Confederacy.
    ---Got to have been at least an hour since we last saw Talbot, which was 18:50.
    •20:05 - The Confederacy. Talbot calls himself Earth's mightiest hero.
    •20:05 - Deke goes to see Daisy. She tells him the bag contains her mother's body, and that someone seems to have pranked her by putting lemons on her bed. She talks about how people close to her die, including Lincoln. He reveals FitzSimmons are his parents.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 20----
    •20:05 - Talbot asks to be added to the Confederacy. He kills one of the aliens, saying that now there is a space for him.
    •20:10 - Mack fixes the Zephyr. Fitz walks in and they put the gravitonium in. Fitz tries to apologise, but Mack tells him to take a look at his actions.
    •20:15 - Simmons looks at the marauder's heart. Daisy drops off Jiaying's body, and convinces her to help by pointing out that they simply have to save Coulson.
    •20:20 - Ready for take-off into space.
    •20:20 - At the Confederacy, Kasius' father tells them Thanos is attacking. During Infinity War.
    ---Minimum time since Talbot arrived at the Confederacy, at least 15 minutes.
    •20:25 - Hale and Coulson look out at space.
    •20:30 - Talbot wants more gravitonium. He mentions he spoke to a Kasius. He forces Coulson to kneel, threatening his life.
    •20:30 - The Zephyr reaches vertical burn. They get into space and start cloaking.
    •20:35 - Simmons is happy in conversation with Fitz, but he's concerned. They look at the Centipede formula.
    •20:40 - The Zephyr approaches the ship, then docks.
    •20:40 - Talbot hears Quinn tell him how he found gravitonium in a mine. The aliens report that their hull has been breached.
    •20:45 - Knowing it's S.H.I.E.L.D. who've arrived, Talbot turns on Coulson, feeling lied to. Hale lies for her own survival.
    •20:45 - Talbot threatens Daisy when she enters, and lifts Coulson into the air. Hale says she trusts Daisy after she helped Ruby.
    •20:45 - Hale attempts to use the Hydra conditioning to stop Talbot. He lowers Coulson, but then turns on Hale and crushes her, killing her.
    •20:45 - Daisy tries to quake Talbot but fails. He takes her out and May has to surrender. Talbot calls them prisoners of war, believing he has finally realised S.H.I.E.L.D. were always the enemy.
    •The Kasius father takes Daisy with him.





    Putting together Wednesday and Thursday, this is:

    WEDNESDAY
    •03:25/08:25 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo stumbles into the Quinjet in pain.
    •07:00 - Phil tries to talk to May about what she said, but she doesn't let him.
    •07:00 - Daisy tells them the plan. Wheels up in 5. Coulson praises Daisy's leadership. Daisy reveals that they have found Hale's base in the Appalachian Mountains.
    around 07:50. This would be around 07:00.[/I]
    •07:35 - Hale's assistant tells her that Ivanov is dead, and Creel had gotten much worse.
    •07:45 - Hale goes to see Creel, and he's losing control, banging his head against the wall.
    •07:45 - Coulson and Mack tell Deke that they know he fancies Daisy. He decides he'll use the 2091 lemons etiquette.
    •07:50 - Talbot looks at Robin's drawings.
    •07:50 - Daisy and May get into a containment module. They jet down to the base as the Zephyr fires a missile ahead.
    •07:55 - Hale surrenders to Daisy and May, wanting to get to Ruby.
    •07:55/12:55 Herefordshire - Ruby and Strucker threaten FitzSimmons to hurry up.
    •08:00/13:00 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo shoots a mech who gets to her jet, still in pain.
    •08:05 - Talbot talks to Robin and Polly.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 18----
    •08:10 - Daisy and May tell Coulson that gravitonium also absorbs consciousnesses.
    •08:10 - Talbot chokes Polly and takes Robin.
    •10:25/15:25 Herefordshire - The team land in England. Hale's fault.
    •10:26/15:26 Herefordshire - Strucker tells Ruby that a plane just landed. The machine is ready. Strucker starts up a tube to transfer the gravitonium.
    •10:26 - Deke turns up to talk to Mack and Coulson. They find that the security feeds are paused.
    •10:30 - Coulson finds Polly still breathing.
    •10:30/15:30 Herefordshire - Ruby goes into the machine. It starts to go wrong. Hale hears and runs in. They shut it down with only 8% done. Ruby comes out of machine floating.
    •10:31/15:31 Herefordshire - Ruby can't deal with the voices. She accidentally kills Strucker. She begins to lose control.
    •10:35 - Coulson and Mack confront Talbot as he goes into the hangar. Talbot holds a gun to his own head.
    •10:35/15:35 Herefordshire - Ruby can't deal with so many voices. Daisy is kind.
    •10:35/15:35 Herefordshire - May arrives as Yo-Yo returns. May says Daisy is handling it.
    •10:36 - Talbot believes he can't trust his thoughts. Mack takes Robin. Coulson commands that Talbot turn the gun on him. Mack I.C.E.s him.
    •10:36/15:36 Herefordshire - Ruby begins to crush Daisy. She tells Hale she feels she was never good enough, but Hale says that all she ever wanted was Ruby to meet her full potential.
    •10:38/15:38 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo arrives and realises Ruby is the one who took her arms. Ruby loses control again.
    •10:39/15:39 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo uses the chakram to slice Ruby's throat. Daisy is shocked, and Hale is devastated.
    •10:40/15:40 Herefordshire - Ruby's body releases a burst of gravitonium.
    •10:41/15:41 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo believes she just saved the world.
    SPOILER! •13:05-12 - The Statesman.
    •13:12 - "Thanos is coming."
    •13:16-17 - Pepper and Tony.
    •13:19-21 - The discussion in the Sanctum.
    •"WED" "01:21PM" shown on phone. So as late as possible, the film begins at 13:05.
    •13:22-41 - Attack on Greenwich Village. Tony and Peter end up on the ship.
    •13:42 - Bruce calls Steve.
    •13:42 - The Guardians pick up Thor.
    •13:50 - Thor wakes and tells them everything that happened.
    •14:10/19:10 Scotland (or 15:45/20:45 Scotland) - Scotland bedroom.
    •14:30-35/19:30-35 Scotland (or 16:05-10/21:05-10 Scotland) - Edinburgh fight.

    •15:00 - Hale visits Qovas and tells him that he can go after S.H.I.E.L.D..
    [Episode 19]
    •15:08 - Talbot tries to sleep in the Lighthouse and mutters coordinates.
    •15:15 - Coulson tells the team the plan to throw the gravitonium into the Sun. The team argue about Yo-Yo killing Ruby.
    SPOILER! •15:17 (or 21:15) - Gamora asks Peter to kill her if Thanos gets her. Drax thinks he's mastered being invisible.
    •15:20 - May and Daisy talk about what May has found from Caine.
    •15:50 - Deke suggests multiverse again. They discuss the possibility of him blinking out of existence.
    SPOILER! •15:58 (or Thursday 02:20) - Knowhere.
    •16:20 - Talbot continues to mutter coordinates. He calls for Coulson.
    •16:30 - Coulson visits Talbot. He tells Coulson he must have given their location.
    •16:35 - Qovas' ship arrives over the Lighthouse.
    •16:35 - The team realise they are cut off from the world. Project: Reclamation is triggered, and Rick Stoner's video talks to them. Coulson selects the nuclear attack option before the alien invasion option shows. He accidentally locks them in for 15 years. Coulson tells the agents about the situation.
    •16:38 - Qovas video calls them. Coulson says that in the current political climate, they'll probably get shot down.
    SPOILER! •16:40 (or Thursday 07:25) - The facility.
    •16:45 - Yo-Yo tries to explain her actions to Mack, who is not happy.
    •16:48 - May tells Yo-Yo you can only learn to live with your actions.
    •16:50 - Coulson wonders why Daisy isn't back by now. May reveals that she's gone dark to get information to save him. Yo-Yo thinks she killed Ruby for nothing.
    •16:50 - Qovas prepares marauders.
    •16:50 - Yo-Yo reveals her future self said they have to let Coulson die. Coulson realises the marauders can simply teleport in.
    •16:50 - The marauders are sent.
    •16:55 - The marauders arrive. Deke runs frmo them and hides in the vent as agents are killed.
    •17:00 - Energy fluctuations occur. Deke tells them the marauders are already inside.
    •17:05 - Deke tells them about the marauders. Coulson says they need to get Talbot out. Fitz tells Coulson there's an analogue override he needs to get to to get them out. Deke wonders why Daisy isn't back yet.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 19----
    •17:10 - Daisy talks to Tony Caine. He gives her Centipede serum. Mention of the Infinity War events in New York.
    •17:10 - Yo-yo gets Talbot out of his cell.
    •17:10 - Fitz is attacked. Deke helps him, and they get to the override, where they find it ripped up.
    •17:15 - Qovas sends more marauders.
    •17:15 - Agent Kim goes to the armoury. Coulson decides to defend control. Yo-Yo has Talbot. Deke is fixing the elevator for the gravitonium. Fit tells them the aliens have EMPs, and they need combustible things to create light sources. "Let's light 'em up."
    •17:20 - Yo-Yo and Talbot encounter marauders.
    •17:20 - Deke panics and doesn't want to die.
    •17:25 - Piper, Davis, and Simmons barricade themselves. Yo-Yo and Talbot arrive. Fitz tells Simmons on comms that Deke is still there, so Simmons feels they're safe. Yo-Yo heads out with Davis and Piper, leaving Simmons and Talbot as the last line of defence.
    •17:25 - Mack joins Fitz and Deke. Marauders attack.
    •17:30 - Yo-Yo, Piper, and Davis shoot into the dark. Yo-Yo leads the way, feeling she can't be killed.
    •17:35 - Simmons realises they are surrounded. Talbot takes an I.C.E.R.. He sees the machine and I.C.E.s Simmons. Talbot then enters the machine.
    •17:40 - Fitz has made a combustible cocktail. Deke calls Fitz "Gramps", which he doesn't appreciate. The doors rattle, but the noises stop and then come from above. The marauders enter and the team shoot.
    •17:40 - Yo-Yo, Piper, and Davis shoot at the marauders attacking the lab. Yo-Yo is concerned that she can't get through to Simmons. The doors suddenly burst open and a marauder's blood is splattered. Graviton emerges.
    •17:45 - The team are running out of ammunition and hand-to-hand fighting begins. Talbot enters and crushes the aliens.
    •17:50 - Yo-Yo finds Simmons. They see the 100%-used machine.
    •17:50 - Talbot lifts Coulson into the air, through the ceiling, and leaves with him. Rick Stoner's video tells them the planet is safe again.
    •17:50 - Daisy digs up Jiaying's body.
    [Episode 20]
    •17:55 - Talbot and Coulson approach Qovas' ship. Talbot believes he can fix the situation.
    •17:55 - The team at the Lighthouse are concerned that they can't help out, since the building has only just come back on line.
    •18:00 - A remaining marauder takes the odium and attacks Mack. Mack takes him down, and they take him prisoner.
    •18:05 - Talbot claims the ship and crushes an alien, forcing the other aliens to kneel.
    •18:14 - Mack and Yo-Yo talk about his fight with the rabid alien.
    •18:23 - The marauder on odium becomes especially rabid, and then dies. Simmons decides she has to dissect him.
    •18:33 - Talbot has everyone kneeling.
    •18:42 - Coulson visits Hale on the ship and asks to team up.
    •18:50 - Coulson and Hale return to the Remoraths and talk about the Confederacy. Hale tells Talbot he is the only one who can save them all. She reveals that the aliens wanted gravitonium.
    •19:00 - Fitz believes it could take hours to get the power working again, but Deke fixes the power quickly. Daisy calls. She's arriving.
    •19:10 - Yo-Yo confronts Daisy on her return.
    •19:10 - Yo-Yo and Daisy fight. May tells Yo-Yo to pitch in helping Coulson or leave.
    •20:00 - Talbot has had a trim. Coulson tells him he looks pretty cool. Talbot is transported over to see the Confederacy.
    •20:05 - The Confederacy. Talbot calls himself Earth's mightiest hero.
    •20:05 - Deke goes to see Daisy. She tells him the bag contains her mother's body, and that someone seems to have pranked her by putting lemons on her bed. She talks about how people close to her die, including Lincoln. He reveals FitzSimmons are his parents.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 20----
    •20:05 - Talbot asks to be added to the Confederacy. He kills one of the aliens, saying that now there is a space for him.
    •20:10 - Mack fixes the Zephyr. Fitz walks in and they put the gravitonium in. Fitz tries to apologise, but Mack tells him to take a look at his actions.
    •20:15 - Simmons looks at the marauder's heart. Daisy drops off Jiaying's body, and convinces her to help by pointing out that they simply have to save Coulson.
    •20:20 - Ready for take-off into space.
    •20:20 - At the Confederacy, Kasius' father tells them Thanos is attacking. During Infinity War.
    •20:25 - Hale and Coulson look out at space.
    •20:30 - Talbot wants more gravitonium. He mentions he spoke to a Kasius. He forces Coulson to kneel, threatening his life.
    •20:30 - The Zephyr reaches vertical burn. They get into space and start cloaking.
    •20:35 - Simmons is happy in conversation with Fitz, but he's concerned. They look at the Centipede formula.
    •20:40 - The Zephyr approaches the ship, then docks.
    •20:40 - Talbot hears Quinn tell him how he found gravitonium in a mine. The aliens report that their hull has been breached.
    •20:45 - Knowing it's S.H.I.E.L.D. who've arrived, Talbot turns on Coulson, feeling lied to. Hale lies for her own survival.
    •20:45 - Talbot threatens Daisy when she enters, and lifts Coulson into the air. Hale says she trusts Daisy after she helped Ruby.
    •20:45 - Hale attempts to use the Hydra conditioning to stop Talbot. He lowers Coulson, but then turns on Hale and crushes her, killing her.
    •20:45 - Daisy tries to quake Talbot but fails. He takes her out and May has to surrender. Talbot calls them prisoners of war, believing he has finally realised S.H.I.E.L.D. were always the enemy.
    •The Kasius father takes Daisy with him.
    SPOILER! •23:45/06:45 Wakanda (or Thursday 07:47/14:47 Wakanda, or Thursday 10:02/17:02 Wakanda) - Wakanda. Bucky gets his new arm.


    THURSDAY
    SPOILER! •00:50 (or 08:09, or 12:38 ) - Ebony Maw tortures Strange. Peter reveals he's still there. Using the vaccuum. They decide to let the ship go to Titan.
    •01:55 (or 08:31, or 15:15) - Gamora says she hated her life. Thanos reveals he is torturing Nebula, until Gamora tells him the Soul Stone is on Vormir.
    ----MIDDLE OF THE FILM----
    SPOILER! •03:00 (or 08:53, or 17:51) - Thor laments everything he's lost. Rocket gives him a new cybernetic eye. They arrive in Nidavellir and meet Eitri.
    •04:05 (or 09:15, or 20:28 ) - Nebula escapes and contacts Mantis.
    •05:10 (or 09:37, or 23:04) - The Q-ship crashes on Titan. The Guardians meet Tony, Peter, and Strange.
    •06:15 (or 09:59, or Friday 01:41) - Eitri shows them the mould for Stormbreaker.
    •07:20 (or 10:21, or Friday 04:17) - The two teams on Titan discuss plans. "Kick names, take ass." Strange returns from seeing 14 million futures.
    •08:25 (or 10:43, or Friday 06:54) - Vormir.
    •09:30 (or 11:05, or same time on the Friday) - Arriving in Wakanda.
    •09:40-09:45 (or 11:08, or same time on the Friday) - Shuri and Banner. The Outrider ships begin to crash down.
    •09:57-10:02 (or 11:12-17, or same time on the Friday) - Thor uses Rocket's ship to start moving the rings of Nidavellir. The forge starts up but then breaks.
    •09:57-10:05 (or 11:12-20, or same time on the Friday) - The group prepare in Wakanda. Cull Obsidian and Proxima Midnight approach. The Outriders are unleashed. Charge.
    •10:05-10:08 (or 11:18-21, or same time on the Friday) - Thor holds the forge. Stormbreaker is forged. Groot makes the handle.
    •10:10-10:12 (or 11:21-23, or same time on the Friday) - The battle continues. Thor arrives.
    •10:12-10:19 (or 11:22-29, or same time on the Friday) - Thanos gets to Titan. Strange greets him. The group all attack. They try to get the gauntlet off, but Star-Lord loses control. Thanos throws the moon at them.
    •10:14-10:19 (or 11:24-29, or same time on the Friday) - Rocket and Bucky team up. Steve talks to Thor and Groot. The underground mining vehicles erupt from the ground. Wanda goes to the battlefield but Corvus Glaive then attacks Shuri. Hulkbuster fights Cull Obsidian. Vision and Steve fight Corvus Glaive. The women fight Proxima Midnight and Scarlet Witch kills her. Vision kills Corvus Glaive.
    •10:19-10:23 (or 11:29-33, or same time on the Friday) - Spider-Man grabs the Guardians as the moon crashes down on them. Strange takes on Thanos. Thanos attacks Iron Man, who does everything he can to fight back. Thanos stabs Tony, and Strange gives Thanos the stone in return for sparing Tony.
    •10:23 (or 11:31, or same time on the Friday) - Thor continues to fight. Vision senses Thanos coming. The team all fail against Thanos. Vision tells Wanda to destroy the stone, and she does. Nonetheless, Thanos reverses Vision and takes the stone. Thor hurls the axe, but Thanos survives.
    •10:24/17:24 (or 11:32, or same time on the Friday) - The snap.
    •10:24-25/17:24-25 (or 11:32-33, or same time on the Friday) - People disappear. Credits scene.
    Sorry for the length, but I'm resharing Agamotto's post for DIrishB.

    I feel like up until the finale, it's perfect for the timeline.
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    Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Agamotto View Post
    Regarding the Wakanda Civil War credits scene, we didn't really see it as a mistake, because there's numerous potential explanations. For example, the comic seems to imply that in the "weeks" since Civil War, they have been trying to come up with a solution for Bucky but haven't found something yet, and have come to the conclusion that for now, the best option is to freeze him. So, in Black Panther, either Bucky has already arrived in Wakanda and Shuri has been trying to come up with a solution, or she's been told about Bucky and that she'll be having to work on him. With the beginning of the film seemingly - and as synopses have said - being T'Challa's first return to Wakanda after his father's death, and the comic saying "weeks later", we decided that it should place after the film, and not before or during the first half.

    Also, on my second viewing, I too caught the 10:24 in Fury's car. I didn't catch the clock in Scotland - I can see where it is, from going to that scene on an online version - it's immediately after the Q-ship in Edinburgh flies away. But the angle is very hard to see, and the online versions have the clock-face looking too bright.

    Something else that I noticed this time, which weirdly, I hadn't thought of before, was specifics about Thor's hair. It's almost exactly the same as in Ragnarok, including the streaks on the side of his head from Stan Lee's bad haircutting skills. This would also suggest it's been very little time since the events of the film. It's possible that Asgardian hair grows slower than humans, but yeah, just another point there.

    I've been doing time zone working and working out the rough timings for all the Infinity War and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. scenes to see how it fits together and where the divides are between days.
    The Episode 20 notes are not particularly firmly timed, because there is no next milestone to match it with, like a sunrise to stretch the night's events across - it's just working forwards from the previous timings.
    Also, the timings come from an assumption of January 10th-11th, considering it doesn't seem like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. can be later than early January. With Tony's phone saying it's Wednesday, and the S.H.I.E.L.D. events picking up a few days prior in early January, then the earliest it can be is January 10th. So that's the date I used for the timings, with it being the only date I can see working - plus, it's closer to Ragnarok. The sunrise and sunset times would be slightly different depending on the time of year, though, if it were a bit later than January 10th-11th.

    But here's the results:

    WEDNESDAY
    SPOILER! •13:05-12 - The Statesman.
    ---As late as possible so that Thor is floating through space for the minimum time possible. Hulk is sent off about 2 minutes before the end of the scene, and that is at least 2 minutes before "Thanos is coming."
    •13:12 - "Thanos is coming."
    ---As late as possible so that Thor is floating through space for the minimum time possible. At least 2 minutes after Hulk was sent from The Statesman. At least 5 minutes before they talk to Tony and Pepper, because Bruce has to get changed.
    •13:16-17 - Pepper and Tony.
    ---As late as possible so that Thor is floating through space for the minimum time possible. At least 4-5 minutes after "Thanos is coming." At least 2-3 minutes before the discussion in the Sanctum.
    •13:19-21 - The discussion in the Sanctum.
    ---13:21 - Tony checks the phone. The Q-ship arrives.
    •"WED" "01:21PM" shown on phone. So as late as possible, the film begins at 13:05.
    •13:22-41 - Attack on Greenwich Village. Tony and Peter end up on the ship.
    •13:42 - Bruce calls Steve.
    ---"01:42PM" shown on phone.
    •13:42 - The Guardians pick up Thor.
    ---Immediately after so as to minimise the time since The Statesman exploded.
    •13:50 - Thor wakes and tells them everything that happened.
    •14:10/19:10 Scotland (or 15:45/20:45 Scotland) - Scotland bedroom.
    ---Now things get problematic, and it's all because the Avengers Facility scene is shown to be daytime, when it should be night.
    ---The birds are cheeping when they return to the New Avengers Facility, suggesting it's the morning, which would mean it's after the 07:19 sunrise - earliest possible 07:25. However, the problem there is that the flight after that from New York to Wakanda (which, from the map in Civil War, is by Lake Turkana, Kenya) is about 7094.589 miles. Quinjet top speeds have been calculated to be about 1600mph - which happens to match the comics' Quinjet top speed of Mach 2.1, which is 1611.27mph. 7094.589 miles/1611.27mph = a 4:24 flight. Even at the dangerous absolute top speed of about 2000mph from The Team, 7094.589 miles/2000mph = 3:33 flight. Including time to get up to top speed, there is absolutely no way the jet is getting to Wakanda before 11:05 New York time, which would be 18:05 Wakanda time - with Wakanda's sunset being 18:46. If they went at absolute top speed and the Wakanda events happened as fast as absolutely possible, you could just about, juuusssttt squeeze the Wakanda events in before sunset, finishing no later than 18:40, 11:40 New York. However, Fury's car in the credits scene says "10:24", and the scene was shot in Atlanta. This would suggest that the scene takes place 10:24 east coast, so 17:24 Wakanda time - but that's before the earliest time that they could possibly have even arrived in Wakanda. Even if it's another time zone and not Atlanta, which would be odd because it looks like Atlanta, it is still a :24, meaning the latest it can be is 11:24 east coast, 18:24 Wakanda, and there's just no way that all the Wakanda events take place in 19 minutes between arrival and the snap - especially with that already assuming that the Avengers went dangerously fast to get to Wakanda already. More likely than it being not Atlanta is the car clock being wrong, but then we're back to still pushing it with 11:40. Also, with it being night in Scotland, if it is morning in New York when they arrive, they must have delayed for several hours before getting back, despite the scene showing Steve directing them "home" (the facility), straight there.
    ---So, OK, what if the New Avengers Facility scene is actually still on the Wednesday, just before sunset? Sunset is 16:47, so realistically, the latest this can be is 16:40. Well, that wouldn't really make sense with the birds tweeting, but that's not particularly bad - can it fit in otherwise? From Edinburgh Waverley station to New York is about 3262.368 miles. 3262.368 miles/1611.27mph maximum is a 2:01 flight + a few minutes of speeding up and slowing down, which would mean that the latest they could have left Scotland really is 14:35 New York/19:35 Scotland, to get there by 16:40. So, Steve and co. got there by 14:30, arriving in Wakanda about 48 minutes after Bruce called at 13:42. If they got on the jet immediately, it's a 45-minute journey. 0.75 hours*1611.27mph = 1208.4525 miles maximum that they could have been from Edinburgh. The majority of Europe is within that radius, so if they were in Europe at the time of being called, that works - especially with them mentioning that the plan was always for Vision and Scarlet Witch to stay nearby. And then that allows for the finale to fit comfortably before 10:42 and before the Wakanda sunset. However, Bwdelano says that the clock-face shown at an angle behind Steve after the fight in Edinburgh Waverley station (specifically the shot after you see the Q-ship leave) looks like it might read as 9:10. I didn't catch it myself, it was too fast, and online versions are too unfocused to see any hands. This would make it 21:10, so 16:10 New York, and therefore they cannot get back to the facility before sunset, so it would have to be the next morning. However, apart from the implication from the bird noises and the possible clock-face, this way around works. It also works better for Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight only just turning up, being pretty soon after New York is attacked rather than several hours, as well as the fact that the news is showing the New York events as "breaking news". This also means that the jet can simply go straight back to the facility from Scotland, which makes more sense. And, if the facility scene is that afternoon instead of the next morning, that would also make more sense for the Q-ship Doctor Strange scenes which pick up afterwards - it would allow those scenes to be more like 11 hours after Tony and Peter got on-board, instead of about 19. It seems like Tony and Peter haven't been on-board very long when Tony realises Peter's still there, so the less time the better.
    ---The third option is that the film actually lasts not 21.5 hours, but 45.5 hours. So the facility scene would be the following morning of the Thursday, but then the Wakanda events are the morning after that, the Friday. This seems unlikely since it would mean that Strange, Tony, and Peter don't eat or drink for 2 days as they travel, and generally doesn't fit with the feel of the film. This possibility though comes down to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in the end. If the events of the last 2 episodes carry through to the next morning and coincide with the end of the film, then it's just 21.5 hours. If they spend a whole day still fine, with the end of the film having not occurred yet by next afternoon, then the film lasts 45.5 hours.
    ---For now though, I'm assuming that the facility scene is 16:40 on the Wednesday, as this is currently the most-supported option, but will put the other options up as well in case.
    ---So, this scene, about 25 minutes before the fighting ends at 14:35 New York/19:35 Scotland, would be about 14:10 New York/19:10 Scotland.
    •14:30-35/19:30-35 Scotland (or 16:05-10/21:05-10 Scotland) - Edinburgh fight.
    •15:17 (or 21:15) - Gamora asks Peter to kill her if Thanos gets her. Drax thinks he's mastered being invisible.
    ---Two scenes between 14:35 and 16:40, so 16:40 - 14:35 = 2:05. 2:05/3 = 0:41.66667. 14:35 + 0:41.66667 = 15:16.66667, 15:17.
    ---Otherwise, two scenes between 16:10 and 07:25, so Thursday 07:25 - Wednesday 16:10 = 15:15. 15:15/3 = 5:05. 16:10 + 5:05 = 21:15.
    •15:58 (or Thursday 02:20) - Knowhere.
    ---15:16.66667 + 0:41.66667 = 15:58.33333, 15:58.
    ---Otherwise, 21:15 + 5:05 = 02:20.
    •16:40 (or Thursday 07:25) - The facility.
    ---As explained, either 16:40 or Thursday 07:25.
    •23:45/06:45 Wakanda (or Thursday 07:47/14:47 Wakanda, or Thursday 10:02/17:02 Wakanda) - Wakanda. Bucky gets his new arm.
    ---If you were to distribute the scenes between the facility and the arrival in Wakanda, this would be soon after the facility scene. However, by 16:40 New York, we're at 23:40 Wakanda, which is way after sunset. Sunrise in Wakanda is 06:34, so 23:34 New York, so the earliest this scene can be - placing it as early as possible - is 23:45/06:45 New York.
    ---If the facility is 07:25, then we're already just distributing the scenes between this and the next time-allocated scene, when they arrive in Wakanda at 11:05ish absolute earliest. So 9 scenes between 07:25 and 11:05. 11:05 - 07:25 = 3:40. 3:40/10 = 0:22. 07:25 + 0:22 = 07:47.
    ---Or, if the film spans 45.5 hours, then we're looking at 07:25 on the Thursday to 09:30 on the Friday. So 10 scenes between Thursday 07:25 and Friday 09:30. Friday 09:30 - Thursday 07:25 = 26:05. 26:05/10 = 2:36.5. 07:25 + 2:36.5 = 10:01.5, 10:02.



    THURSDAY
    SPOILER! •00:50 (or 08:09, or 12:38 ) - Ebony Maw tortures Strange. Peter reveals he's still there. Using the vaccuum. They decide to let the ship go to Titan.
    ---8 scenes between 23:45 and 09:30 (which is the natural time for their arrival in Wakanda if you work back from 10:24). 09:30 - 23:45 = 9:45. 9:45/9 = 1:05. 23:45 + 1:05 = 00:50.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 07:47 + 0:22 = 08:09.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 10:01.5 + 2:36.5 = 12:38.
    •01:55 (or 08:31, or 15:15) - Gamora says she hated her life. Thanos reveals he is torturing Nebula, until Gamora tells him the Soul Stone is on Vormir.----MIDDLE OF THE FILM----
    ---00:50 + 1:05 = 01:55.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 08:09 + 0:22 = 08:31.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 12:38 + 2:36.5 = 15:14.5, 15:15.
    •03:00 (or 08:53, or 17:51) - Thor laments everything he's lost. Rocket gives him a new cybernetic eye. They arrive in Nidavellir and meet Eitri.
    ---01:55 + 1:05 = 03:00.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 08:31 + 0:22 = 08:53.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 15:14.5 + 2:36.5 = 17:51.
    •04:05 (or 09:15, or 20:28 ) - Nebula escapes and contacts Mantis.
    ---03:00 + 1:05 = 04:05.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 08:53 + 0:22 = 09:15.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 17:51 + 2:36.5 = 20:27.5, 20:28.
    •05:10 (or 09:37, or 23:04) - The Q-ship crashes on Titan. The Guardians meet Tony, Peter, and Strange.
    ---04:05 + 1:05 = 05:10.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 09:15 + 0:22 = 09:37.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 20:27.5 + 2:36.5 = 23:04.
    •06:15 (or 09:59, or Friday 01:41) - Eitri shows them the mould for Stormbreaker.
    ---05:10 + 1:05 = 06:15.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 09:37 + 0:22 = 09:59.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 23:04 + 2:36.5 = 01:40.5, 01:41.
    •07:20 (or 10:21, or Friday 04:17) - The two teams on Titan discuss plans. "Kick names, take ass." Strange returns from seeing 14 million futures.
    ---06:15 + 1:05 = 07:20.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 09:59 + 0:22 = 10:21.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 01:40.5 + 2:36.5 = 04:17.
    •08:25 (or 10:43, or Friday 06:54) - Vormir.
    ---07:20 + 1:05 = 08:25.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25, then 10:21 + 0:22 = 10:43.
    ---Or, if the facility is 07:25 and the film spans 45.5 hours, then 04:17 + 2:36.5 = 06:53.5, 06:54.
    •09:30 (or 11:05, or same time on the Friday) - Arriving in Wakanda.
    •09:40-09:45 (or 11:08, or same time on the Friday) - Shuri and Banner. The Outrider ships begin to crash down.
    •09:57-10:02 (or 11:12-17, or same time on the Friday) - Thor uses Rocket's ship to start moving the rings of Nidavellir. The forge starts up but then breaks.
    •09:57-10:05 (or 11:12-20, or same time on the Friday) - The group prepare in Wakanda. Cull Obsidian and Proxima Midnight approach. The Outriders are unleashed. Charge.
    •10:05-10:08 (or 11:18-21, or same time on the Friday) - Thor holds the forge. Stormbreaker is forged. Groot makes the handle.
    •10:10-10:12 (or 11:21-23, or same time on the Friday) - The battle continues. Thor arrives.
    •10:12-10:19 (or 11:22-29, or same time on the Friday) - Thanos gets to Titan. Strange greets him. The group all attack. They try to get the gauntlet off, but Star-Lord loses control. Thanos throws the moon at them.
    •10:14-10:19 (or 11:24-29, or same time on the Friday) - Rocket and Bucky team up. Steve talks to Thor and Groot. The underground mining vehicles erupt from the ground. Wanda goes to the battlefield but Corvus Glaive then attacks Shuri. Hulkbuster fights Cull Obsidian. Vision and Steve fight Corvus Glaive. The women fight Proxima Midnight and Scarlet Witch kills her. Vision kills Corvus Glaive.
    •10:19-10:23 (or 11:29-33, or same time on the Friday) - Spider-Man grabs the Guardians as the moon crashes down on them. Strange takes on Thanos. Thanos attacks Iron Man, who does everything he can to fight back. Thanos stabs Tony, and Strange gives Thanos the stone in return for sparing Tony.
    •10:23 (or 11:31, or same time on the Friday) - Thor continues to fight. Vision senses Thanos coming. The team all fail against Thanos. Vision tells Wanda to destroy the stone, and she does. Nonetheless, Thanos reverses Vision and takes the stone. Thor hurls the axe, but Thanos survives.
    •10:24/17:24 (or 11:32, or same time on the Friday) - The snap.
    •10:24-25/17:24-25 (or 11:32-33, or same time on the Friday) - People disappear. Credits scene.
    ---"10:24" shown in Fury's car.






    And the time zones for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.:

    SATURDAY
    •Events of Episode 14.
    [Episode 15]
    •Coulson is shown his room.

    SUNDAY
    •Coulson is given the cereal/Ruby ploy.
    •Coulson is told about Ruby being Hale's daughter.
    •Coulson is shown the Confederacy machine.
    •Coulson meets Qovas.
    •Coulson reveals he killed Whitehall.
    •Hale reveals that Ruby was designed for the project. However, she suggests Daisy.
    •Coulson reveals that he saw the outcome when he and his team were in the future.
    •Ruby asks Coulson how she failed, but he reveals that it wasn't her who was the Destroyer of Worlds.
    •Ruby shows Coulson what has happened to Talbot.

    MONDAY
    •The team work out Hale is Hydra.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 15----
    •May visits Fitz.
    •Mack and Jemma operate to give Yo-Yo her new arms.
    •May and Daisy talk to Fitz. Daisy is angry.
    •Daisy goes to contact the Hintons.
    •Simmons reveals that Deke is their grandson, and tells him she feels they are invincible.

    TUESDAY
    [Episode 16]
    •07:40 - Coulson is in isolation.
    ---Daytime Appalachian Mountains. Sunrise 07:33. Has to be right after and time has to be absolutely minismised to make this fit, as will be explained.
    •07:41 - Hale offers Creel the new material. Ruby asks her mother what she is doing. Coulson has been in isolation for 2 days.
    •07:43 - Creel touches the gravitonium.
    •07:43 - Yo-Yo tests her new arms.
    •07:43 - Fitz is unimpressed with Deke.
    •07:45 - Simmons asks Deke about whether she and Fitz survive, and he confirms it.
    •07:47 - Zephyr One is leaving to pick up Robin.
    •07:53 - Simmons questions Yo-Yo about her feeling that she can't die. Simmons says that Deke is their proof that she and Fitz will also survive, and she promises to get Fitz out.
    •07:59 - Hale talks to Creel. Creel is going mad with the noises in his head.
    •08:05 - The Retreat. Picking up Robin.
    ---Daytime, so after 07:19ish. Minimum time since the Zephyr left at 07:47.
    •08:18 - Ruby visits Strucker, who says he's close.
    •08:18 - 5 minutes out from the Zephyr One. Robin's not helping Daisy.
    ---Daytime, so after 07:19ish. Minimum time since the Quinjet picked up Robin at 08:00.
    •08:18 - Mack is frustrated with Yo-Yo, who wants him to let Fitz out.
    •08:18 - Creel can't sleep. He goes to Coulson.
    ---Earliest possible, still 08:18.
    •08:21 - Creel says the gravitonium wants Coulson dead. Coulson tells him what's happened to
    Talbot, and Creel takes out the guard and takes Coulson to where he thinks Talbot might be and see if he's telling the truth.
    ---Earliest possible, 08:16.
    •08:23 - Polly wonders what Robin's last drawing meant.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 16----
    ---Docking, so 5 minutes after 08:13.
    •08:24 - Robin sees May and calls her "Mom".
    ---Daytime, so before 16:45ish.
    •08:24 - They find Talbot.
    •08:24 - Simmons and Yo-Yo pull the stunt on Mack.
    •08:26 - Yo-Yo accidentally sets off the gun.
    •08:26 - May and Robin talk. Robin had stopped drawing. She says Coulson will die. She draws Coulson in a mountain range.
    •08:27 - Deke wants sympathy from Daisy.
    •08:27 - Creel is going mad as they try to escape. A mech hears them.
    •08:28 - An alarm is set off. Hale sends Ruby after them.
    •08:28 - The Invincible Three go to the closest location.
    ---As early as possible, 08:28.
    •08:29 - As the alarm goes off, the trio are attack. Coulson's heart stops, but Creel revives him.
    •08:30 - Ruby arrives with mechs and they pursue the trio.
    •09:12 - May and Polly talk. Robin still wants Polly.
    There are two scenes between 08:30 and the Invincible Three arriving in Herefordshire. That needs to be as early as possible because very little time has passed for Coulson and Talbot and it has to be as early as possible to still be daytime in Herefordshire by just before the end of the episode. 3378.303 miles, and the top speed of a Quinjet is Mach 2.1 (it can go slightly faster, up to 2000mph in extreme urgency when they need the risky speeds, like in The Team, but otherwise, the top speed is 1611.27mph). 3378.303 miles/1611.27mph = 2:06 flight at top speed, + a few minutes to get up to top speed, so absolute minimum 2:09. They get to Herefordshire at 08:28 + 2:09 = 10:37. 10:37-08:30 = 2:07. 2:07/3 = 0:42.33333, so 08:30 + 0:42.33333 = 09:12.33333. 09:12.
    •09:54 - Pinned down.
    ---Second block of scenes, 09:12.33333 + 0:42.33333 = 09:54.66667. 09:54-09:55.
    •09:55 - Escape with the teleport machine.
    •09:55 - Creel and Ruby fight. Ruby throws a chakram at Creel, who wedges it in his chest, made of wood. Hale sends Ruby after Coulson and Talbot.
    •09:55 - Coulson and Tlabot arrive in the snow.
    [Episode 17]
    •10:37/15:37 Herefordshire - Herefordshire, skydiving.
    ---No more than 2½ hours ago it was still daytime in the U.S., which means it is morning U.S./afternoon U.K., not night U.S./morning U.K.. I tried both ways around, and this can just about barely work, the other way cannot work at all. This is why the timings have been like this so far. As explained, 08:28 + 2:09 flight = 10:37 is the very earliest it can be. This is 15:37 Herefordshire, so they've got 42 minutes until sunset at 16:19.
    •10:37 - Talbot feels like he let people down.
    •10:37 - Ruby goes through the machine.
    •10:37 - The team follow the drawing and go to land.
    •10:44 - Quake arrives.
    ---Absolute minimum the team land at 10:41 and this is 10:44.
    •10:45 - Daisy meets Ruby and they fight.
    •10:46 - Deke gets injured. Hale arrives.
    •10:50 - The team try to help Deke.
    •10:50 - Piper lets Mack out of Fitz's cell.
    •10:50/15:50 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo worries about radiation poisoning, but they scan and there is none. Fitz is awkward with Yo-Yo about losing arms.
    ---Earliest possible. Still daytime, still before 11:19/16:19 Herefordshire.
    •10:53 - Daisy scolds Deke. He starts coughing blood.
    ---At least 8 minutes since they tried to help him, so absolute earliest 10:53.
    •11:00 - The team wheel Deke to be operated. Piper and Mack agree to operate.
    •11:00 - Hale tells off Ruby and locks her in her room
    •11:00/16:00 Herefordshire - The Invincible Three move in on the base. Fitz gets an encrypted signal. They notice Ivanov.
    ---Earliest possible. Still daytime, still before 11:19/16:19 Herefordshire.
    •11:03 - Coulson tells Talbot about Deke and the Kree in the future while Deke is operated on.
    •11:04 - May tells Coulson she loves him.
    •11:04 - Strucker enters Ruby's room and convinces her to lure Hale in and escape.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 17---
    •11:04/16:04 Herefordshire - The Three close in further. Ivanov calls Hale to say the chamber is ready. Fitz sets off explosions and Ivanov tells Hale he'll handle it. The Three find the chamber.
    •11:05 - Hale's assistant asks her about Ivanov, and Hale says their interests align.
    •11:06 - Hale enters Ruby's room. Ruby says her mother is her weakness and hugs her, then knocks her down and escapes.
    •11:08 - Strucker shoots and tells Hale's men to prepare the gravitonium for transport. Ruby catches up with him and tells him they are free and clear.
    •11:08 - Talbot and Daisy talk. She asks him to tell him everything he remembers.
    •11:08/16:08 Herefordshire - FitzSimmons look at the technology. Yo-Yo reveals that trying to save Coulson is what led to the end. She super-speeds, but her arms malfunction.
    •11:08 - Mack and Piper talk about Mack's concerns for Yo-Yo while they operate.
    •11:09/16:09 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo is in pain. The soldiers are closing in. She heads out. Simmons is happy this is their honeymoon. Her gun jams and they're running low on ammunition.
    •11:10/16:10 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo finds Ivanov.
    •11:10/16:10 Herefordshire - Simmons asks for a reminder that time can't be changed, but then realises it's not helping.
    •11:11/16:11 Herefordshire - Ivanov insists he no longer feels pain. Yo-Yo fights him and throws him through a window.
    ---Earliest possible. Still daytime, still before 11:19/16:19 Herefordshire.
    •11:12/16:12 Herefordshire - The robots stop working.
    •11:12/16:12 Herefordshire - Who's Superior now. The robots convulse.
    ---Earliest possible. Still daytime, still before 11:19/16:19 Herefordshire.
    •12:26 - Deke is on drugs and spilling all his secrets.
    ---This is between the 11:08 scene and Ruby arriving in Herefordshire. She left around 11:11, and it's a 3810.458-mile journey. Assuming they also have Mach 2.1/1611.27mph, 3810.458 miles/1611.27mph = 2:22, + a few minutes to top speed + a few minutes to get inside, 2:30. So that's 13:41 at the earliest. Should be as early as possible because it looks like it's very soon after Yo-Yo took out Ivanov. So, halfway between 11:12 and 13:41, 12:26.5. This is 12:26-12:27.
    •12:27 - Daisy arrives and lets them know that they've got a ping from Hale's robots.
    •13:41/18:41 Herefordshire - After inspecting the robots following them fritzing out, Fitz decides it must have been something Yo-Yo did. Ruby and Strucker arrive and force them to fix the machine.
    ---13:41 as explained.
    •17:00 - Talbot calls Carla. She tells him to comply.
    ---There are 3 scenes between 13:41 and 03:25. 10th 03:25 - 9th 13:41 = 13:44. 13:44/4 = 3:26. 13:41 + 3:26 = 17:07.
    [Episode 18]
    •20:33 - Talbot mutters to himself that he has to complete his mission.
    ---17:07 + 3:26 = 20:33.
    •20:33 - Mack catches Talbot, but he gets away with it.
    •23:59/04:59 Herefordshire - Let her go, I need her help. I ship it. Everyone you care about will die.
    ---20:33 + 3:26 = 23:59.
    •23:59/04:59 Herefordshire - Complicated, it'll take a while. I'll remove body parts.


    WEDNESDAY
    •03:25/08:25 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo stumbles into the Quinjet in pain.
    ---08:16 is sunrise time, so this is likely at least 08:25. It seems like pretty soon after Yo-Yo defeated Ivanov, but has to be at least 16 hours. She must have stumbled through the night. Early as possible though. The birds are tweeting in the English countryside, so it is indeed morning, which works.
    •07:00 - Phil tries to talk to May about what she said, but she doesn't let him.
    •07:00 - Daisy tells them the plan. Wheels up in 5. Coulson praises Daisy's leadership. Daisy reveals that they have found Hale's base in the Appalachian Mountains.
    ---When Daisy and May arrive, it is seemingly just after Hale has left Creel's room and is going to go after Ruby, so that would be around 07:50. This would be around 07:00.
    •07:35 - Hale's assistant tells her that Ivanov is dead, and Creel had gotten much worse.
    •07:45 - Hale goes to see Creel, and he's losing control, banging his head against the wall.
    ---Daylight in Creel's room, so at least 07:33, and ideally at least 07:45. Not later though, since it seems like minimal time has passed.
    •07:45 - Coulson and Mack tell Deke that they know he fancies Daisy. He decides he'll use the 2091 lemons etiquette.
    •07:50 - Talbot looks at Robin's drawings.
    •07:50 - Daisy and May get into a containment module. They jet down to the base as the Zephyr fires a missile ahead.
    ---Daylight, at least 07:33 Appalachian Mountains.
    •07:55 - Hale surrenders to Daisy and May, wanting to get to Ruby.
    •07:55/12:55 Herefordshire - Ruby and Strucker threaten FitzSimmons to hurry up.
    •08:00/13:00 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo shoots a mech who gets to her jet, still in pain.
    •08:05 - Talbot talks to Robin and Polly.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 18----
    •08:10 - Daisy and May tell Coulson that gravitonium also absorbs consciousnesses.
    •08:10 - Talbot chokes Polly and takes Robin.
    •10:25/15:25 Herefordshire - The team land in England. Hale's fault.
    ---As established above, the journey is roughly 2:22, + a few minutes to top speed, so 2:25. They would have left around 08:00, meaning this is about 10:25.
    ---Daylight, so before 16:21 Herefordshire.
    •10:26/15:26 Herefordshire - Strucker tells Ruby that a plane just landed. The machine is ready. Strucker starts up a tube to transfer the gravitonium.
    •10:26 - Deke turns up to talk to Mack and Coulson. They find that the security feeds are paused.
    •10:30 - Coulson finds Polly still breathing.
    •10:30/15:30 Herefordshire - Ruby goes into the machine. It starts to go wrong. Hale hears and runs in. They shut it down with only 8% done. Ruby comes out of machine floating.
    •10:31/15:31 Herefordshire - Ruby can't deal with the voices. She accidentally kills Strucker. She begins to lose control.
    •10:35 - Coulson and Mack confront Talbot as he goes into the hangar. Talbot holds a gun to his own head.
    •10:35/15:35 Herefordshire - Ruby can't deal with so many voices. Daisy is kind.
    •10:35/15:35 Herefordshire - May arrives as Yo-Yo returns. May says Daisy is handling it.
    ---Daylight, so before 16:21 Herefordshire.
    •10:36 - Talbot believes he can't trust his thoughts. Mack takes Robin. Coulson commands that Talbot turn the gun on him. Mack I.C.E.s him.
    •10:36/15:36 Herefordshire - Ruby begins to crush Daisy. She tells Hale she feels she was never good enough, but Hale says that all she ever wanted was Ruby to meet her full potential.
    •10:38/15:38 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo arrives and realises Ruby is the one who took her arms. Ruby loses control again.
    •10:39/15:39 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo uses the chakram to slice Ruby's throat. Daisy is shocked, and Hale is devastated.
    •10:40/15:40 Herefordshire - Ruby's body releases a burst of gravitonium.
    ---Daylight, so before 16:21 Herefordshire.
    •10:41/15:41 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo believes she just saved the world.
    •15:00 - Hale visits Qovas and tells him that he can go after S.H.I.E.L.D..
    ---Ideally at least a few hours after Ruby's death. It would take 4 hours for people on her team to come from the mountains and pick her up and take her back, so that she can use the machine in the mountain base. Plus, her grief isn't quite so intense. The ship arrives at 16:35, so probably a little while before that as well. Coulson telling the team the plan at the beginning of Episode 19 is at 15:20, so that's the earliest this can be. We can assume roughly 15:00, allowing over 4 hours for Hale and 95 minutes between her telling Qovas he can attack and him actually arriving to attack.
    [Episode 19]
    •15:08 - Talbot tries to sleep in the Lighthouse and mutters coordinates.
    ---Halfway between 15:00 and 15:15 scenes.
    •15:15 - Coulson tells the team the plan to throw the gravitonium into the Sun. The team argue about Yo-Yo killing Ruby.
    ---Just before May and Daisy scene, which is 15:20.
    •15:20 - May and Daisy talk about what May has found from Caine.
    ---If Coulson expects Daisy to have returned by 16:50, she must have left at least an hour or more beforehand. However, it is better to have it later than earlier, to allow time at the end of Episode 18 for Hale to have been picked up and got back to the Appalachian base, and the agents to have been back for a little while. So, 15:20ish, an hour-and-a-half.
    •15:50 - Deke suggests multiverse again. They discuss the possibility of him blinking out of existence.
    ---Halfway between 15:20 and 16:20 scenes.
    •16:20 - Talbot continues to mutter coordinates. He calls for Coulson.
    ---Presumably about 10 minutes for them to get Coulson to go and see Talbot, which is at 16:30.
    •16:30 - Coulson visits Talbot. He tells Coulson he must have given their location.
    ---Seemingly just before the team realise the ship has arrived at 16:35.
    •16:35 - Qovas' ship arrives over the Lighthouse.
    ---Not long before the 16:45 scene after this, because the marauders would not have waited particularly long to attack.
    •16:35 - The team realise they are cut off from the world. Project: Reclamation is triggered, and Rick Stoner's video talks to them. Coulson selects the nuclear attack option before the alien invasion option shows. He accidentally locks them in for 15 years. Coulson tells the agents about the situation.
    •16:38 - Qovas video calls them. Coulson says that in the current political climate, they'll probably get shot down.
    •16:45 - Yo-Yo tries to explain her actions to Mack, who is not happy.
    ---Working back from 16:50, as explained later.
    •16:48 - May tells Yo-Yo you can only learn to live with your actions.
    •16:50 - Coulson wonders why Daisy isn't back by now. May reveals that she's gone dark to get information to save him. Yo-Yo thinks she killed Ruby for nothing.
    ---This scene continues after the 16:50 moment after this, so this is also 16:50.
    •16:50 - Qovas prepares marauders.
    ---Shown to be dark, but during sunset, around the later part of sunset. So, with sunset being 16:47, this would be roughly 16:50.
    •16:50 - Yo-Yo reveals her future self said they have to let Coulson die. Coulson realises the marauders can simply teleport in.
    •16:50 - The marauders are sent.
    •16:55 - The marauders arrive. Deke runs frmo them and hides in the vent as agents are killed.
    •17:00 - Energy fluctuations occur. Deke tells them the marauders are already inside.
    •17:05 - Deke tells them about the marauders. Coulson says they need to get Talbot out. Fitz tells Coulson there's an analogue override he needs to get to to get them out. Deke wonders why Daisy isn't back yet.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 19----
    •17:10 - Daisy talks to Tony Caine. He gives her Centipede serum. Mention of the Infinity War events in New York.
    ---Dark outside.
    •17:10 - Yo-yo gets Talbot out of his cell.
    •17:10 - Fitz is attacked. Deke helps him, and they get to the override, where they find it ripped up.
    •17:15 - Qovas sends more marauders.
    •17:15 - Agent Kim goes to the armoury. Coulson decides to defend control. Yo-Yo has Talbot. Deke is fixing the elevator for the gravitonium. Fit tells them the aliens have EMPs, and they need combustible things to create light sources. "Let's light 'em up."
    •17:20 - Yo-Yo and Talbot encounter marauders.
    •17:20 - Deke panics and doesn't want to die.
    •17:25 - Piper, Davis, and Simmons barricade themselves. Yo-Yo and Talbot arrive. Fitz tells Simmons on comms that Deke is still there, so Simmons feels they're safe. Yo-Yo heads out with Davis and Piper, leaving Simmons and Talbot as the last line of defence.
    •17:25 - Mack joins Fitz and Deke. Marauders attack.
    •17:30 - Yo-Yo, Piper, and Davis shoot into the dark. Yo-Yo leads the way, feeling she can't be killed.
    •17:35 - Simmons realises they are surrounded. Talbot takes an I.C.E.R.. He sees the machine and I.C.E.s Simmons. Talbot then enters the machine.
    •17:40 - Fitz has made a combustible cocktail. Deke calls Fitz "Gramps", which he doesn't appreciate. The doors rattle, but the noises stop and then come from above. The marauders enter and the team shoot.
    •17:40 - Yo-Yo, Piper, and Davis shoot at the marauders attacking the lab. Yo-Yo is concerned that she can't get through to Simmons. The doors suddenly burst open and a marauder's blood is splattered. Graviton emerges.
    •17:45 - The team are running out of ammunition and hand-to-hand fighting begins. Talbot enters and crushes the aliens.
    •17:50 - Yo-Yo finds Simmons. They see the 100%-used machine.
    •17:50 - Talbot lifts Coulson into the air, through the ceiling, and leaves with him. Rick Stoner's video tells them the planet is safe again.
    •17:50 - Daisy digs up Jiaying's body.
    [Episode 20]
    •17:55 - Talbot and Coulson approach Qovas' ship. Talbot believes he can fix the situation.
    •17:55 - The team at the Lighthouse are concerned that they can't help out, since the building has only just come back on line.
    •18:00 - A remaining marauder takes the odium and attacks Mack. Mack takes him down, and they take him prisoner.
    •18:05 - Talbot claims the ship and crushes an alien, forcing the other aliens to kneel.
    •18:14 - Mack and Yo-Yo talk about his fight with the rabid alien.
    ---Five scenes between 18:05 and 19:00. 19:00 - 18:05 = 0:55. 0:55/6 = 0:9.16667. 18:05 + 0:9.16667 = 18:14.16667.
    •18:23 - The marauder on odium becomes especially rabid, and then dies. Simmons decides she has to dissect him.
    ---18:14.16667 + 0:9.16667 = 18:23.33333.
    •18:33 - Talbot has everyone kneeling.
    ---18:23.33333 + 0:9.16667 = 18:32.5.
    •18:42 - Coulson visits Hale on the ship and asks to team up.
    ---18:32.5 + 0:9.16667 = 18:41.66667.
    •18:50 - Coulson and Hale return to the Remoraths and talk about the Confederacy. Hale tells Talbot he is the only one who can save them all. She reveals that the aliens wanted gravitonium.
    ---18:41.66667 + 0:9.16667 = 18:50.83333.
    •19:00 - Fitz believes it could take hours to get the power working again, but Deke fixes the power quickly. Daisy calls. She's arriving.
    ---Daisy has been trying to get through for 30 minutes, suggesting this is about half an hour after she got Jiaying's body, Assuming she probably was en route for her return by around 18:30.
    •19:10 - Yo-Yo confronts Daisy on her return.
    •19:10 - Yo-Yo and Daisy fight. May tells Yo-Yo to pitch in helping Coulson or leave.
    •20:00 - Talbot has had a trim. Coulson tells him he looks pretty cool. Talbot is transported over to see the Confederacy.
    ---Got to have been at least an hour since we last saw Talbot, which was 18:50.
    •20:05 - The Confederacy. Talbot calls himself Earth's mightiest hero.
    •20:05 - Deke goes to see Daisy. She tells him the bag contains her mother's body, and that someone seems to have pranked her by putting lemons on her bed. She talks about how people close to her die, including Lincoln. He reveals FitzSimmons are his parents.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 20----
    •20:05 - Talbot asks to be added to the Confederacy. He kills one of the aliens, saying that now there is a space for him.
    •20:10 - Mack fixes the Zephyr. Fitz walks in and they put the gravitonium in. Fitz tries to apologise, but Mack tells him to take a look at his actions.
    •20:15 - Simmons looks at the marauder's heart. Daisy drops off Jiaying's body, and convinces her to help by pointing out that they simply have to save Coulson.
    •20:20 - Ready for take-off into space.
    •20:20 - At the Confederacy, Kasius' father tells them Thanos is attacking. During Infinity War.
    ---Minimum time since Talbot arrived at the Confederacy, at least 15 minutes.
    •20:25 - Hale and Coulson look out at space.
    •20:30 - Talbot wants more gravitonium. He mentions he spoke to a Kasius. He forces Coulson to kneel, threatening his life.
    •20:30 - The Zephyr reaches vertical burn. They get into space and start cloaking.
    •20:35 - Simmons is happy in conversation with Fitz, but he's concerned. They look at the Centipede formula.
    •20:40 - The Zephyr approaches the ship, then docks.
    •20:40 - Talbot hears Quinn tell him how he found gravitonium in a mine. The aliens report that their hull has been breached.
    •20:45 - Knowing it's S.H.I.E.L.D. who've arrived, Talbot turns on Coulson, feeling lied to. Hale lies for her own survival.
    •20:45 - Talbot threatens Daisy when she enters, and lifts Coulson into the air. Hale says she trusts Daisy after she helped Ruby.
    •20:45 - Hale attempts to use the Hydra conditioning to stop Talbot. He lowers Coulson, but then turns on Hale and crushes her, killing her.
    •20:45 - Daisy tries to quake Talbot but fails. He takes her out and May has to surrender. Talbot calls them prisoners of war, believing he has finally realised S.H.I.E.L.D. were always the enemy.
    •The Kasius father takes Daisy with him.





    Putting together Wednesday and Thursday, this is:

    WEDNESDAY
    •03:25/08:25 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo stumbles into the Quinjet in pain.
    •07:00 - Phil tries to talk to May about what she said, but she doesn't let him.
    •07:00 - Daisy tells them the plan. Wheels up in 5. Coulson praises Daisy's leadership. Daisy reveals that they have found Hale's base in the Appalachian Mountains.
    around 07:50. This would be around 07:00.[/I]
    •07:35 - Hale's assistant tells her that Ivanov is dead, and Creel had gotten much worse.
    •07:45 - Hale goes to see Creel, and he's losing control, banging his head against the wall.
    •07:45 - Coulson and Mack tell Deke that they know he fancies Daisy. He decides he'll use the 2091 lemons etiquette.
    •07:50 - Talbot looks at Robin's drawings.
    •07:50 - Daisy and May get into a containment module. They jet down to the base as the Zephyr fires a missile ahead.
    •07:55 - Hale surrenders to Daisy and May, wanting to get to Ruby.
    •07:55/12:55 Herefordshire - Ruby and Strucker threaten FitzSimmons to hurry up.
    •08:00/13:00 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo shoots a mech who gets to her jet, still in pain.
    •08:05 - Talbot talks to Robin and Polly.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 18----
    •08:10 - Daisy and May tell Coulson that gravitonium also absorbs consciousnesses.
    •08:10 - Talbot chokes Polly and takes Robin.
    •10:25/15:25 Herefordshire - The team land in England. Hale's fault.
    •10:26/15:26 Herefordshire - Strucker tells Ruby that a plane just landed. The machine is ready. Strucker starts up a tube to transfer the gravitonium.
    •10:26 - Deke turns up to talk to Mack and Coulson. They find that the security feeds are paused.
    •10:30 - Coulson finds Polly still breathing.
    •10:30/15:30 Herefordshire - Ruby goes into the machine. It starts to go wrong. Hale hears and runs in. They shut it down with only 8% done. Ruby comes out of machine floating.
    •10:31/15:31 Herefordshire - Ruby can't deal with the voices. She accidentally kills Strucker. She begins to lose control.
    •10:35 - Coulson and Mack confront Talbot as he goes into the hangar. Talbot holds a gun to his own head.
    •10:35/15:35 Herefordshire - Ruby can't deal with so many voices. Daisy is kind.
    •10:35/15:35 Herefordshire - May arrives as Yo-Yo returns. May says Daisy is handling it.
    •10:36 - Talbot believes he can't trust his thoughts. Mack takes Robin. Coulson commands that Talbot turn the gun on him. Mack I.C.E.s him.
    •10:36/15:36 Herefordshire - Ruby begins to crush Daisy. She tells Hale she feels she was never good enough, but Hale says that all she ever wanted was Ruby to meet her full potential.
    •10:38/15:38 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo arrives and realises Ruby is the one who took her arms. Ruby loses control again.
    •10:39/15:39 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo uses the chakram to slice Ruby's throat. Daisy is shocked, and Hale is devastated.
    •10:40/15:40 Herefordshire - Ruby's body releases a burst of gravitonium.
    •10:41/15:41 Herefordshire - Yo-Yo believes she just saved the world.
    SPOILER! •13:05-12 - The Statesman.
    •13:12 - "Thanos is coming."
    •13:16-17 - Pepper and Tony.
    •13:19-21 - The discussion in the Sanctum.
    •"WED" "01:21PM" shown on phone. So as late as possible, the film begins at 13:05.
    •13:22-41 - Attack on Greenwich Village. Tony and Peter end up on the ship.
    •13:42 - Bruce calls Steve.
    •13:42 - The Guardians pick up Thor.
    •13:50 - Thor wakes and tells them everything that happened.
    •14:10/19:10 Scotland (or 15:45/20:45 Scotland) - Scotland bedroom.
    •14:30-35/19:30-35 Scotland (or 16:05-10/21:05-10 Scotland) - Edinburgh fight.

    •15:00 - Hale visits Qovas and tells him that he can go after S.H.I.E.L.D..
    [Episode 19]
    •15:08 - Talbot tries to sleep in the Lighthouse and mutters coordinates.
    •15:15 - Coulson tells the team the plan to throw the gravitonium into the Sun. The team argue about Yo-Yo killing Ruby.
    SPOILER! •15:17 (or 21:15) - Gamora asks Peter to kill her if Thanos gets her. Drax thinks he's mastered being invisible.
    •15:20 - May and Daisy talk about what May has found from Caine.
    •15:50 - Deke suggests multiverse again. They discuss the possibility of him blinking out of existence.
    SPOILER! •15:58 (or Thursday 02:20) - Knowhere.
    •16:20 - Talbot continues to mutter coordinates. He calls for Coulson.
    •16:30 - Coulson visits Talbot. He tells Coulson he must have given their location.
    •16:35 - Qovas' ship arrives over the Lighthouse.
    •16:35 - The team realise they are cut off from the world. Project: Reclamation is triggered, and Rick Stoner's video talks to them. Coulson selects the nuclear attack option before the alien invasion option shows. He accidentally locks them in for 15 years. Coulson tells the agents about the situation.
    •16:38 - Qovas video calls them. Coulson says that in the current political climate, they'll probably get shot down.
    SPOILER! •16:40 (or Thursday 07:25) - The facility.
    •16:45 - Yo-Yo tries to explain her actions to Mack, who is not happy.
    •16:48 - May tells Yo-Yo you can only learn to live with your actions.
    •16:50 - Coulson wonders why Daisy isn't back by now. May reveals that she's gone dark to get information to save him. Yo-Yo thinks she killed Ruby for nothing.
    •16:50 - Qovas prepares marauders.
    •16:50 - Yo-Yo reveals her future self said they have to let Coulson die. Coulson realises the marauders can simply teleport in.
    •16:50 - The marauders are sent.
    •16:55 - The marauders arrive. Deke runs frmo them and hides in the vent as agents are killed.
    •17:00 - Energy fluctuations occur. Deke tells them the marauders are already inside.
    •17:05 - Deke tells them about the marauders. Coulson says they need to get Talbot out. Fitz tells Coulson there's an analogue override he needs to get to to get them out. Deke wonders why Daisy isn't back yet.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 19----
    •17:10 - Daisy talks to Tony Caine. He gives her Centipede serum. Mention of the Infinity War events in New York.
    •17:10 - Yo-yo gets Talbot out of his cell.
    •17:10 - Fitz is attacked. Deke helps him, and they get to the override, where they find it ripped up.
    •17:15 - Qovas sends more marauders.
    •17:15 - Agent Kim goes to the armoury. Coulson decides to defend control. Yo-Yo has Talbot. Deke is fixing the elevator for the gravitonium. Fit tells them the aliens have EMPs, and they need combustible things to create light sources. "Let's light 'em up."
    •17:20 - Yo-Yo and Talbot encounter marauders.
    •17:20 - Deke panics and doesn't want to die.
    •17:25 - Piper, Davis, and Simmons barricade themselves. Yo-Yo and Talbot arrive. Fitz tells Simmons on comms that Deke is still there, so Simmons feels they're safe. Yo-Yo heads out with Davis and Piper, leaving Simmons and Talbot as the last line of defence.
    •17:25 - Mack joins Fitz and Deke. Marauders attack.
    •17:30 - Yo-Yo, Piper, and Davis shoot into the dark. Yo-Yo leads the way, feeling she can't be killed.
    •17:35 - Simmons realises they are surrounded. Talbot takes an I.C.E.R.. He sees the machine and I.C.E.s Simmons. Talbot then enters the machine.
    •17:40 - Fitz has made a combustible cocktail. Deke calls Fitz "Gramps", which he doesn't appreciate. The doors rattle, but the noises stop and then come from above. The marauders enter and the team shoot.
    •17:40 - Yo-Yo, Piper, and Davis shoot at the marauders attacking the lab. Yo-Yo is concerned that she can't get through to Simmons. The doors suddenly burst open and a marauder's blood is splattered. Graviton emerges.
    •17:45 - The team are running out of ammunition and hand-to-hand fighting begins. Talbot enters and crushes the aliens.
    •17:50 - Yo-Yo finds Simmons. They see the 100%-used machine.
    •17:50 - Talbot lifts Coulson into the air, through the ceiling, and leaves with him. Rick Stoner's video tells them the planet is safe again.
    •17:50 - Daisy digs up Jiaying's body.
    [Episode 20]
    •17:55 - Talbot and Coulson approach Qovas' ship. Talbot believes he can fix the situation.
    •17:55 - The team at the Lighthouse are concerned that they can't help out, since the building has only just come back on line.
    •18:00 - A remaining marauder takes the odium and attacks Mack. Mack takes him down, and they take him prisoner.
    •18:05 - Talbot claims the ship and crushes an alien, forcing the other aliens to kneel.
    •18:14 - Mack and Yo-Yo talk about his fight with the rabid alien.
    •18:23 - The marauder on odium becomes especially rabid, and then dies. Simmons decides she has to dissect him.
    •18:33 - Talbot has everyone kneeling.
    •18:42 - Coulson visits Hale on the ship and asks to team up.
    •18:50 - Coulson and Hale return to the Remoraths and talk about the Confederacy. Hale tells Talbot he is the only one who can save them all. She reveals that the aliens wanted gravitonium.
    •19:00 - Fitz believes it could take hours to get the power working again, but Deke fixes the power quickly. Daisy calls. She's arriving.
    •19:10 - Yo-Yo confronts Daisy on her return.
    •19:10 - Yo-Yo and Daisy fight. May tells Yo-Yo to pitch in helping Coulson or leave.
    •20:00 - Talbot has had a trim. Coulson tells him he looks pretty cool. Talbot is transported over to see the Confederacy.
    •20:05 - The Confederacy. Talbot calls himself Earth's mightiest hero.
    •20:05 - Deke goes to see Daisy. She tells him the bag contains her mother's body, and that someone seems to have pranked her by putting lemons on her bed. She talks about how people close to her die, including Lincoln. He reveals FitzSimmons are his parents.----MIDDLE OF EPISODE 20----
    •20:05 - Talbot asks to be added to the Confederacy. He kills one of the aliens, saying that now there is a space for him.
    •20:10 - Mack fixes the Zephyr. Fitz walks in and they put the gravitonium in. Fitz tries to apologise, but Mack tells him to take a look at his actions.
    •20:15 - Simmons looks at the marauder's heart. Daisy drops off Jiaying's body, and convinces her to help by pointing out that they simply have to save Coulson.
    •20:20 - Ready for take-off into space.
    •20:20 - At the Confederacy, Kasius' father tells them Thanos is attacking. During Infinity War.
    •20:25 - Hale and Coulson look out at space.
    •20:30 - Talbot wants more gravitonium. He mentions he spoke to a Kasius. He forces Coulson to kneel, threatening his life.
    •20:30 - The Zephyr reaches vertical burn. They get into space and start cloaking.
    •20:35 - Simmons is happy in conversation with Fitz, but he's concerned. They look at the Centipede formula.
    •20:40 - The Zephyr approaches the ship, then docks.
    •20:40 - Talbot hears Quinn tell him how he found gravitonium in a mine. The aliens report that their hull has been breached.
    •20:45 - Knowing it's S.H.I.E.L.D. who've arrived, Talbot turns on Coulson, feeling lied to. Hale lies for her own survival.
    •20:45 - Talbot threatens Daisy when she enters, and lifts Coulson into the air. Hale says she trusts Daisy after she helped Ruby.
    •20:45 - Hale attempts to use the Hydra conditioning to stop Talbot. He lowers Coulson, but then turns on Hale and crushes her, killing her.
    •20:45 - Daisy tries to quake Talbot but fails. He takes her out and May has to surrender. Talbot calls them prisoners of war, believing he has finally realised S.H.I.E.L.D. were always the enemy.
    •The Kasius father takes Daisy with him.
    SPOILER! •23:45/06:45 Wakanda (or Thursday 07:47/14:47 Wakanda, or Thursday 10:02/17:02 Wakanda) - Wakanda. Bucky gets his new arm.


    THURSDAY
    SPOILER! •00:50 (or 08:09, or 12:38 ) - Ebony Maw tortures Strange. Peter reveals he's still there. Using the vaccuum. They decide to let the ship go to Titan.
    •01:55 (or 08:31, or 15:15) - Gamora says she hated her life. Thanos reveals he is torturing Nebula, until Gamora tells him the Soul Stone is on Vormir.
    ----MIDDLE OF THE FILM----
    SPOILER! •03:00 (or 08:53, or 17:51) - Thor laments everything he's lost. Rocket gives him a new cybernetic eye. They arrive in Nidavellir and meet Eitri.
    •04:05 (or 09:15, or 20:28 ) - Nebula escapes and contacts Mantis.
    •05:10 (or 09:37, or 23:04) - The Q-ship crashes on Titan. The Guardians meet Tony, Peter, and Strange.
    •06:15 (or 09:59, or Friday 01:41) - Eitri shows them the mould for Stormbreaker.
    •07:20 (or 10:21, or Friday 04:17) - The two teams on Titan discuss plans. "Kick names, take ass." Strange returns from seeing 14 million futures.
    •08:25 (or 10:43, or Friday 06:54) - Vormir.
    •09:30 (or 11:05, or same time on the Friday) - Arriving in Wakanda.
    •09:40-09:45 (or 11:08, or same time on the Friday) - Shuri and Banner. The Outrider ships begin to crash down.
    •09:57-10:02 (or 11:12-17, or same time on the Friday) - Thor uses Rocket's ship to start moving the rings of Nidavellir. The forge starts up but then breaks.
    •09:57-10:05 (or 11:12-20, or same time on the Friday) - The group prepare in Wakanda. Cull Obsidian and Proxima Midnight approach. The Outriders are unleashed. Charge.
    •10:05-10:08 (or 11:18-21, or same time on the Friday) - Thor holds the forge. Stormbreaker is forged. Groot makes the handle.
    •10:10-10:12 (or 11:21-23, or same time on the Friday) - The battle continues. Thor arrives.
    •10:12-10:19 (or 11:22-29, or same time on the Friday) - Thanos gets to Titan. Strange greets him. The group all attack. They try to get the gauntlet off, but Star-Lord loses control. Thanos throws the moon at them.
    •10:14-10:19 (or 11:24-29, or same time on the Friday) - Rocket and Bucky team up. Steve talks to Thor and Groot. The underground mining vehicles erupt from the ground. Wanda goes to the battlefield but Corvus Glaive then attacks Shuri. Hulkbuster fights Cull Obsidian. Vision and Steve fight Corvus Glaive. The women fight Proxima Midnight and Scarlet Witch kills her. Vision kills Corvus Glaive.
    •10:19-10:23 (or 11:29-33, or same time on the Friday) - Spider-Man grabs the Guardians as the moon crashes down on them. Strange takes on Thanos. Thanos attacks Iron Man, who does everything he can to fight back. Thanos stabs Tony, and Strange gives Thanos the stone in return for sparing Tony.
    •10:23 (or 11:31, or same time on the Friday) - Thor continues to fight. Vision senses Thanos coming. The team all fail against Thanos. Vision tells Wanda to destroy the stone, and she does. Nonetheless, Thanos reverses Vision and takes the stone. Thor hurls the axe, but Thanos survives.
    •10:24/17:24 (or 11:32, or same time on the Friday) - The snap.
    •10:24-25/17:24-25 (or 11:32-33, or same time on the Friday) - People disappear. Credits scene.
    This post will be invaluable once the Infinity War DVD/Bluray comes out so I can begin breaking up the episodes and film accordingly.

    Impressive job!

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    It definitely seems like several hours have passed between Graviton in Chicago and the “funeral” scene, if not days.
    Its not days. They're all wearing same clothes and freshly mourning Fitz's "death" and Coulson's impending one. Its also important to factor in that from their perspective, Fitz isn't really dead since the slightly younger version (from early Season 5) is still floating in space. I'd say a few hours maybe, as you said.

    Excluding the two we don’t see (Fitz and Deke), the team is a total of 7 people, plus the two retirees. It’s certainly not statistically impossible that they were all just spared.
    No, but its odd they're not mentioning or noticing half of the world's population disappearing. Especially as that's something that would get massive news coverage, and SHIELD is specifically monitoring news and military to keep on top of events in world they may be needed for.

    And again, the show runners themselves have confirmed the AoS Season 5 finale occurs BEFORE THE SNAP. So, that's been definitively answered.

    Either way there’s a narrative disconnect. The tone was too hopeful to have been in a post-Snap world, but at the same time... are we just assuming everyone just expects the Avengers to win? Graviton’s entire plan was based around becoming powerful enough to stop Thanos, and now that he’s actually coming, SHIELD has no interest in joining the fight?
    Its important to remember the vast majority of the world, including SHIELD, don't know Thanos' true power levels with the Gauntlet and stones. Its a very unspecific warning from their point of view. So, since the show's season finale ends before the snap, a certain element of hope makes sense, especially given their hope of finding Fitz, the acceptance of Coulson's impending death in a place of peace with May (the actual Tahiti), and having taken out the immediate threat of Graviton. As for everyone's assumptions, who can say? And how can you presume SHIELD has no interest in joining the fight? That makes little sense, seeing as Thanos NOR his armies have arrived yet on Earth yet (just his children in NY and Scotland the day before, in relatively minor encounters with the Avengers). From SHIELD's point of view, Thanos' armies haven't arrived in Wakanda yet, or may JUST have, thus they haven't had chance to respond yet. The season finale of AoS has Daisy asking Mack "Where to?", and we don't hear the answer, either.

    So, its kind of presumptive and off base to assume what you're assuming.

    Not complaining, I think the finale was awesome on it’s own and I know the logistics of crossing over are tough, but it makes the timeline a little bumpy.
    It always is. The show runners and film makers don't pay attention to the timeline factors as well as us fans. We're lucky AoS and IW cover the same one day period and that that wasn't screwed up (with AoS' final episodes covering multiple days instead).

    Personally, I just wish they didn’t make these 4 episodes concurrent with IW. The Confederacy could have still used Thanos as an effective scare-tactic without having these episodes take place so close to another potentially cataclysmic event.
    Eh, I get where you're coming from, but given Infinity War was the "crossover event" they've been building towards for ten years, and given AoS often using the events of the films to affect the show's plots (in early seasons especially), it'd seem like a missed opportunity both in terms of synergy/advertising the film, but pay off for the fans who watch both.
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